PunchBowl [Testnet 09/05/2024] [Offline]

nope :frowning:

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How do I tell node-launchpad to use --upnp? or pass any safenode options at all…

@chriso @joshuef any hints?

You don’t have that kind of control in the launchpad at the moment.

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That explains a lot, I’ll be patient for now :slight_smile:
Im sure we will soon.
Back to safenode-manager for now then.

It might be worth posting this in the thread you created for the launchpad UX. I’m not completely sure about this, but given that Nic is our new product owner for the node launchpad, it might be him now that would manage which features will go in and how they would be prioritised, and so on. I’ll bring his attention to that thread.

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OK makes sense, I’ll move it to the TUI thread. Thanks :slight_smile:

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Here they would prob class it as a hobby. Anyone on a pension or similar may have to declare it though as it may affect benefits. Until you are earning more than 10K then its classed as a hobby and at the moment we can have up to 10K in crypto to fiat without declaration.

I doubt I could or will see anywhere near that in income. For me I’d be surprised if I get 100 in revenue let alone “profits”

Once it is no longer a hobby then we can claim part of rent/electricity/ISP costs/equipment etc which is why the hobby figure is 10K as its not hard to get that sort of deductions in the first year or two (equipment is major outlay in first few years)

I realise its not like that for others, and maybe our tax man might bluff to get more out of you.

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hmmm - maybe we’re talking about/mixing different things here - because that would mean e.g. tax on the hardware when buying it (and electricity cost + tax on it) would be something you’d need to pay as well up to the 10k revenue … a company here could have a higher revenue (/revenue at all) because of paying the equipment/running costs without taxes on them and then just need to pay tax for the profit based on un-taxed trades…

ps: and yes - there is no such thing as a hobby here … we need to declare every penny of income and they calculate the tax on it … but i guess thats okay if there really is a profit :smiley: … and if there is profit then we can deduct the equipment cost again … just getting the numbers for electricity and part of ISP will be a hard one …

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I was talking of a non company (or sole trader) person who is doing this.

As a company/sole-trader then the normal revenue - costs -depreciation == taxable profit applies without doubts. And then cost of running the business also comes off gross profits reducing it further.

That would be the case for an ordinary person here once above the 10K hobby allowance

Here that is if you are not running a business closely related to the hobby. EG Computer consultant as a business and then cooking or dress making as the hobby

The hobby classification exists only to prevent the person reducing their taxable income overall due to the hobby. EG creating CNC objects as a hobby and deducting 100K per year due to depreciation yet only selling 1K of objects per year.

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side note …

my local upnp nodes at some point just lost connection … restarting the services fixed the issue … but i was wondering why TX/RX would be this little … and it’s just that all peers proke away (dial out error) and never returned

as far as i can tell this didn’t happen when i did explicit port-forwarding

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upgrades are working with safe node manager :slight_smile:

Upgrade summary:
✓ safenode1 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode2 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode3 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode4 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode5 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode6 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode7 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode8 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4
✓ safenode9 upgraded from 0.106.3 to 0.106.4

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OK. Maybe the sudden deaths of nodes have included so many nodes, that some chunks have lost all their replicas. :thinking:

I have now 51 nodes running. None have earned, five have status related to shunning:

3 Shunned x1 (ConnectionIssue)
2 Shunned x1 (FailedChunkProofCheck)

Records I don’t know about, but the extremes of the amount of PUTs are between 431 - 1849 per node, and the distribution between those ends seems pretty even.

GETs vary between 946 - 47187 per node, and the distribution seems even too.

All nodes are running with upnp.

I will be adding more nodes throughout the day, to see how my setup can handle it. One key thing is when the laptop starts to make too much fan noise, as I sleep in the same room. :yawning_face:

Are we supposed to be upgrading? I think the pricing curve has been modified a bit

Not sure that is part of the new release or not… But in theory differences in price calculation should trigger bad node detection - right?

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I thought we’d still be on 0.106. 2 (I am at least =D )

I was feeling my connection very slow and, looking at the activity monitor, it tells me that I have ten nodes running when I thought I had destroyed them days ago. In fact I don’t even have a “node” directory that I deleted days ago.
The worst thing is that if I delete these processes they reappear again.
No idea who controls it because I have neither “node-launchpad” nor “node” running. Even if I reset the computer the processes reappear again.
What can I do (OSX Monterey 12.7.5)?

How did you start them?

Do sudo killall safenode it should sort it out.

Nop. They restart again. Imagine they correspond with the node-launchpad I compiled.

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I haven’t used it so can’t help you there sorry.

These are being run as services and you need to remove them from the startup. I am not sure how but its been mentioned in the last few days here or in node-manager topic

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