Assemble at the Start Line. The Beta is About to Begin

[roland]

For people facing trouble starting nodes (stuck in added state), especially in windows, I think the following steps might work.

For nodes stuck in ‘added’ state:

1. Download the latest launchpad, extract exe, right click exe and run as admin. (latest Release node-launchpad-v0.3.9 · maidsafe/safe_network · GitHub). If you did not run as admin, the launchpad will close immediately.
2. Ctrl + R and type in reset to reset your nodes. This would remove all the nodes that you see inside Node Status
3. Reboot your PC
4. Run Services application from windows search. Now make sure no safenode services are running, if you see any, such as safenode1 or safenode2 etc, then you have to follow the next section.
5. Run latest launchpad as admin again, you should see 0 nodes here because of the prior reset.
6. Start nodes (after entering discord id). Now you should see NAT detection running for a couple mintures and then nodes displayed as RUNNING

To remove services manually (windows)

1. Start terminal as administrator
2. Run C:\Windows\System32\sc.exe delete safenode1 … C:\Windows\System32\sc.exe delete safenode2 … for all your safenode services (run Services in windows search to see all the running services. Don’t delete any other service other than safenode, it might cause your windows to malfunction.)
3. After deleting the services, remove these folders:
   C:\ProgramData\safenode
C:\ProgramData\safenode-manager
4. Reboot PC and you should see the services removed inside Services application. Now you can use the launchpad to run nodes.

[Profess]

I reset the safenode-manager, but now I’m not sure what to do as I have two drives, C: and E:.

• Right from the start, Launchpad indicated that I had 0 GB of free space, probably because the system by default checks the availability of space on the C: drive, while I only have the system on it and there is no more space on it, while on the second drive E: I have plenty of free space.

• Since I couldn’t figure out if the above could be the reason for the nodes startup problems and how to change the path to the disk with free space, I did it myself with the help of other users and changed the path to the E: drive, where the nodes finally managed to start up.

• However, after startup, the computer slowed down a lot and consumed large amounts of power and interrupted the Internet connection, even though only 5 nodes were running, and when I ran 10 nodes, the computer almost stopped working, and I’m wondering if this could be influenced by the fact that:

• when I add new nodes then retrieving latest version for safenode runs on: C:\ProgramData\safenode-manager\downloads\safenode.exe, while the nodes run on: E:\nodes\services\safenode1\safenode.exe ?

• yesterday after updating using the safenode-manager according to the instructions posted by Jim, it appeared that the new nodes were started on the path:
  Log path: C:\ProgramData\safenode\logs\safenode1
  and it turns out that despite the lack of space on the C: drive (it is free now about 1 GB) the nodes started up, and also the computer began to work much better, also the power consumption slowed down.

That’s why now I don’t know if I should in the next command:

safenode-manager add --count 18 --owner discordID --home-network --data-dir-path # \ --log-dir-path #\

add nodes using the drive path C: or E:?

[Lisa_Brown]

This worked for me. 10 nodes running on win 10. Thanks for fixing

[Profess]

At my place also nodes are working, the computer started working normally without a huge load, I will try to add more nodes later.

Launchpad, however, still does not work, cannot add nodes and still shows zero resources and earnings:

[Dimitar]

@roland

For nodes stuck in ‘added’ state:

This solved the problem for me as well under Ubuntu 22.04. I reset the old nodes, downloaded node-launchpad-0.3.9-x86_64-unknown-linux-musl and added new nodes. I haven’t rebooted.

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[rreive]

This worked for me as well adding 5 nodes today, just sent the log info after 3 hours on Discord Beta Support channel to @roland so you all can have a look …

[chrisfostertv]

@Profess

Launchpad, however, still does not work, cannot add nodes and still shows zero resources and earnings:

You dont use safenode-manager and launchpad together…it’s one or the other.

When you use safenode-manager status --details, you will see no nanos…all zero, because they were transferred upwards for tallying by the discord bot.

1/ Use only safenode-manager
2/ For healthcheck of nodes: safenode-manager status --details
3/ To check nanos, in discord enter /rank command
4/ if you want 5 nodes and their logs on E then:

• safenode-manager add –count 5 --owner discordID --home-network –data-dir-path E:\ –log-dir-path E:\

• safenode-manager start

If you want 5 more nodes, then run the above again and again…etc

[drirmbda]

Or you check the values in the “forwarded_balance” files stored under each peer-id folder with >0 forwarded earnings.

[joshuef]

@Krekc

Is there any way to see if your Windows launchpad nodes are actually making peer connections or if they just say “running” but aren’t really doing anything? Asked on discord, but not getting a response there.

Not yet

@storage_guy

. I’m running it without the home-network option and by specifying peers and I think it does cause more traffic because of being a relay.

OOohhh, that’s an interesting point. Things might still favour the current bootstrap nodes (due to routing table existence on many more nodes) if you use --peer! (cc @Shu something to consider in startup stats/connection methods)

[peca]

Being a relay should be rewarded somehow, otherwise people will “optimise” for less traffic and that is not good for the network.

[Profess]

@chrisfostertv

You dont use safenode-manager and launchpad together…it’s one or the other.

I only use safenode-manager, while launchpad just checked after the update but it still does not work and I posted this information for the knowledge of the team.

@chrisfostertv

When you use safenode-manager status --details, you will see no nanos…all zero, because they were transferred upwards for tallying by the discord bot.

1/ Use only safenode-manager
2/ For healthcheck of nodes: safenode-manager status --details
3/ To check nanos, in discord enter /rank command

And here’s the problem, because since I managed to get the nodes up and running, that is, since June 8, I still don’t have any nanos, and the ranking position on Discord still reports that I don’t have any rewards yet, of course my owner Discord ID was indicated from the beginning.

What can I do about it?

@chrisfostertv

4/ if you want 5 nodes and their logs on E then:

• safenode-manager add –count 5 --owner discordID --home-network –data-dir-path E:\ –log-dir-path E:\
• safenode-manager start

If you want 5 more nodes, then run the above again and again…etc

That’s what I did, the nodes work but I still don’t know what drive should run on - as I wrote after the update the day before yesterday, the nodes ran on the default drive C: although I only have 1 GB of available space there, so after yesterday’s update I ran the nodes on the E: drive.

[Josh]

@peca

Being a relay should be rewarded somehow, otherwise people will “optimise” for less traffic and that is not good for the network.

absolutely, or it becomes a punishment, but I believe some previous testing by @Shu suggested that --home-network earned less. not sure if that remains the case.

[neo]

home-network has a much higher error rate and I would think a higher rate of missing giving quotes because of those errors. The dev team will be working on that to reduce the error rate.

Also who knows what the actual work of a relay node is. Surely its is not forwarding every packet.

[chrisfostertv]

@Profess

What can I do about it?

You are getting files in the record_store folders?

example: E:\safenode1\record_store

and profess_99099 is the ID you used to register for rewards?

[Josh]

@neo

home-network has a much higher error rate

yes, why I don’t use it. but as peca said and I have thought numerous times, am I taking on extra work, not an unreasonable thought.

[Profess]

@chrisfostertv

You are getting files in the record_store folders?

example: E:\safenode1\record_store

and profess_99099 is the ID you used to register for rewards?

Yes, now I have the files in folders, before that I also had I sent them here on the forum to Joshuef:

Assemble at the Start Line. The Beta is About to Begin

A small update in reference to an earlier post: I managed to change the starter path to memory, which has a lot of free space: Windows task manager shows that nodes are clearly exploiting resources, node logs have appeared, directory logging indicates that the nodes are running, Launchpad still shows no available disk space, and the status of nodes added, node manager also shows the status of nodes added, and attempts to start them fail, the computer is very heavily loaded, even though all p…

Yes this is my ID on Discord.

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[John]

that worked , 5 nodes are running now
on Windows 10 Home (22H2)

[MetalDog]

Do you know anyone with a free code? I signed up for the wait list on discord the moment it was available but haven’t gotten a DM yet. Don’t want to have to wait until wave 3!

[tobbetj]

Check this

Referral code up for grabs looking for an old Comneter!

iv got my referal code and people who want it buuut. if there are any old comnet’ers out there who have come back to the forum send me a DM

[aatonnomicc]

its already gone to a lurker who used to test net back in the day he showed me a cock pic to prove it