Assemble at the Start Line. The Beta is About to Begin

That’s my assumption, but maybe due to being overloaded?

On the other questions I look for advice from you core Devs on the most useful source of data for display.

I think active/close records is the most useful. But showing zero when there are active/close records isn’t ideal.

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yeah, agreed.
It is useful, but with the risk of not being quoted, hence showing 0
maybe use other count, say record wrote, before being quoted?

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What command do I use for safe node-manager to start 195 nodes a good interval and the user name fructigen?

I’ve read through safe node manager page but don’t see where my user name goes

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First do

safeup update

Then I believe it is:

safenode-manager add --count 195 --owner fructigen

Check with safenode-manager add --help

Then to start

safenode-manager start --interval 300000

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In the instructions posted by @JimCollinson on Discord there is only safenode-manager add --count x but there is no account owner in the command, and in the next command there is safenode-manager start --interval 2000.

Are these commands for Linux, and do they differ from the commands for Windows?

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And why we do not have to add there peers addresses ?

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Thank you very much sir! :pray:

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Really shouldn’t be doing that. You tried to run an linux command. The upgrade Jim talked of was the command to the safeup program.

safeup update

But the node-manager & launcher does that anyhow so don’t run that command

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First I reset through the node manager, because I ran the nodes through it.

But since I plan to let my people to use the machines with their discord when there are enough invite codes, I want to use the launchpad to make it easier for them, so I also reset through the launchpad, rebooted and this is the result - the nodes cannot be started.


Privacy. Security. Freedom

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I believe that’s due to the way Vdash works. It only starts counting new records after a Storecost has been sent.

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There are some defaults baked in, --peer is for situations when you want to override with something custom.

--owner has to be there to earn for your rank, also you may need other parameters for everything to work use safenode-manager add --help to see what parameters you can use

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Is this Windows or Linux?

And did you use the upgrade command or update and the reset in node manager?

TBH I’m not really sure about how things go if you use a combination of node manager for resets and adding nodes, then the launchpad for starting them… it’s not something we’ve tested.

Hopefully we can get it going for you.

Might be worth starting a fresh with just the launchpad as a test and see how it goes?

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On Ubuntu 22.04 I’m testing, only using Laucherpad to add and start the nodes now.

I was using the node manager before so I reset it before fully testing with Laucherpad.

Probably at some point I will also test with a reinstallation of Linux in case there is something smeared somewhere, but since it is not physically with me, and there is too much baby time, it will be in a week or two, thanks.


Privacy. Security. Freedom

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@JimCollinson on Discord you wrote in node reset instructions:

If you are using the Node Manager CLI Tools
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Here’s the sequence of commands:

1. safeup update
2. safenode-manager reset
3. safenode-manager add --count <# of nodes>
4. safenode-manager start --interval 2000

but happybeing and peca indicate that the owner should be added in the command:

How is it actually? I typed the command according to your instructions but still no nanos.


No Safe, no wave.

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The advice coming down is sloppy, they fail to discuss the --home-network switch.

–home-network is utilized with safenode-manager to build nodes when not doing ‘port forwarding’ on the internet router. No port forwarding = no nanos unless using --home-network

port forwarding wtf??? read on…

This is what I use to run 18 nodes (no port forward) and their logs on a USB stick (D:) under windows10

safenode-manager add --count 18 --owner discordID --home-network --data-dir-path D:\ --log-dir-path D:\

So if were starting from scratch then:

  • safeup update

  • safenode-manager reset

  • safenode-manager add –count 18 --owner discordID --home-network –data-dir-path D:\ –log-dir-path D:\

  • safenode-manager start

  • safenode-manager status --details

*bolded items use your variables

** if you don’t specify --data-dir-path and --log-dir-path then the root drive is used

safenode-manager documentation:

Beta Rewards Program

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This is the post of a lifetime! Thanks for the information, now I have to leave but later I will reply to your post, because since the beginning of the Beta tests I have been wandering like a child in the desert and can’t get any answer.

E.g. I now have a very strange situation, 3 nodes of 5 have zero connections… not sure why:

PS C:\Users\gggg> safenode-manager status
╔═══════════════════════╗
║   Safenode Services   ║
╚═══════════════════════╝
Refreshing the node registry...
Service Name       Peer ID                                              Status  Connected Peers
safenode1          12D3KooWRYhvUCaXAAVuXdUWJPwJBGPT9RQ8E3qSqGni5B4RtAet RUNNING             100
safenode2          12D3KooWE9gCGZrn757Ke8Jk8g9Sx5qDPoEREZrajkZTPH7rd6Nf RUNNING               0
safenode3          12D3KooWSLbRJqgoyFmvsyjDzBXTmZM1Bv956ueQS4MwkpxSviXS RUNNING             494
safenode4          12D3KooWMgXuomqMD3c4KYvveGg4XBNdt6PacGwna3S9f46jemwH RUNNING               0
safenode5          12D3KooWH3yhB8JtazEGZ7YJsA2X1rHGMn54NE6FQJJVpC2XZ4GR RUNNING               0

No Safe, no wave.

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safenode-manager start

keep trying this command, sometimes they get stuck…

and more info is revealed with: * safenode-manager status --details

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Really sorry about the miscommunication on the CLI side of things, that would be my fault for not writing a clear set of instructions. The following should be the updated set of instructions.

For CLI upgrade:

1. safeup update
2. safenode-manager reset
3. safenode-manager add (with the following args)
  --count <# of nodes>      => If not specified, only a single node is added
  --owner <your discord_id> => Must be specified to earn rewards, else the earned nanos will not tracked.
  --data-dir-path <path>    => optional, if you have a second hard disk where you want to store the data to.
  --log-dir-path <path>     => optional, path to store the log files.
  --home-network            => optional, if you're behind a NAT/home router/without port forwarding
  --upnp                    => optional, if you have enabled upnp in your router, mutually exclusive with home-network
  --node-port <single/range of ports> => If --home-network or --upnp is not provided, then you have to portforward a set of ports and provide them here. We accept a single port i.e., 12000 or a range i.e., 12000-12010. The number of ports here should match the number of nodes speicified using --count
  --enable-metrics-server   => optional, if you want the stats to be displayed inside the launchpad
4. safenode-manager start --interval 2000
5. safenode-manager status --details

Also you can use --help on any command to know more about what they’re doing. For e.g., safenode-manager --help would pull up all the available commands. And safenode-manager add --help would pull up all the avaialable args for the add command.

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can we known some beta reward table , where 165th place takes 400 Autonomi tokens, first take 9999 tokens etc? thx (just my examples I dont know)

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By participating in the Beta Rewards Program you’ll be rewarded with Autonomi Network tokens, which we’ll pay you after the Main Network launches later this year.

The amount of tokens you’ll be paid depends on how far up your [Wave] leaderboard you climb, and how many times rewards have [multiplied].

Each Wave will have a dedicated Rewards pool which will start at 250,000, and multiply as we get more Beta testers.

So for example, assuming we reach our target of 3000 participant, those claiming the top three places of Wave 1 would get approximately:

:1st_place_medal: 1st: 63,600

:2nd_place_medal: 2nd: 46,300

:3rd_place_medal: 3rd: 37,000

And the prizes continue down the whole leaderboard! Plus, there will be more exciting weekly rewards, and other ways to get involved too.

What will the rewards be worth?

We can’t know for sure at this stage what an Autonomi Token will be worth, as it’s all down to supply and demand when the live Network launches.

The closest indicator we have is the value of MaidSafeCoin (EMAID) which is a proxy token which will convert 1:1 into Autonomi Network Tokens, the same as you’ll be paid your rewards.

When will I be paid?

Rewards will be paid after the launch of the Main Autonomi Network scheduled for later this year.

What is a Wave?How many other people will I be competing against?

The number of people you’ll be competing against depends on which Wave you make it into.

Wave 1: 175 people

Wave 2: 825 people

Wave 3: 2000 people

Wave 4: 3000 people

Wave 5: 4000 people

What are Rewards Multipliers?

We want to expand the size and reach of the Network. So we’ve set up some key targets. Each time we hit those targets, the rewards on offer will multiply the rewards available.

Each Wave will start with a 250,000 Token prize pool. Then when we reach these numbers of overall Beta Rewards Participants, the rewards will multiply:

At 2000 Participants: The pools will double

At 3000 Participants: The pools will double again

At 6000 Participants: The pools will multiply some more

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