Getting a bit more crowded as the rewards beta launch approaches 
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Nice to see some new comers stretching there legs 
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Hey, I got my new router more or less setup, and now I’m eager to try how nodes would work. I’m especially interested in testing UPNP functionality.
What is the latest node version compatible with this testnet? What is the best way to start a few nodes with UPNP?
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See the OP, safeup the node and try safenode --help. Might tell you what you want. Have fun!
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Are you sure about this? If we subtract what you 2 have said you are running along with Maidsafe’s that is about 600 nodes among the rest of the peeps out there.
Thats 30 people running 20 nodes each.
I currently have zero nodes.
@Toivo after enabling upnp on your router all you need to do is safenode --upnp
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oh - i’m down to 1k nodes - if maidsafe and @aatonnomicc are running 2k nodes each - that makes 2k additional nodes yesterday evening … sadly my monitoring with network size graph broke because of a stupid reason exactly around that time … so i’m currently seeing ~1k additional nodes …
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i think @wes hinted he’ll be running a couple hundred nodes too … and since he’s installing monitoring as well he might join the club of 1k+ node runners - not sure what he’s up to … then there are the turboprox people … obviously capable of doing serious server stuff … shu … and @peca sounded like being pretty experienced with router stuff too … @Erwin upgraded to 4GB up/down … and i’m very sure there are others that i just now don’t have at the top of my mind or didn’t make me recognizing them as being busy preparing themselves for rewards-beta 
… and i suppose everyone with a sizable setup wants to run it up and down once fully before prime time to see if it all works as expected …
… i really am very curious how this leader board will look like … at the moment i think nothing is set in stone at all … we might suddenly see really huge farmers that never posted before … theres just a couple of us who outed themselves as being up to something less reasonable than just running a couple of nodes on their old rpi 
…
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Yeah it would be cool to know what regular (not those of us who need wellness checks) are running.
It would be a disaster if people start to feel like silly numbers is the norm.
The norm should be abundantly advertised.
I think that is 20-30 nodes using spare resources in the background almost invisible to the operator.
It is starting to feel like we are creating the wrong impression for newcomers regarding what this is about.
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totally … difficult to get a feeling was is normal, what is rather extreme … and how much more extreme others are … (and if what we’re doing is just plain stupid because the distribution function is far far away from linear …) … xD …
edit/ps:
i’m very sure i’ve never put/planned to put that amount of money ever into something with so many unknowns so far … or might ever do again xD …
…but then again … i’ve spent more money for (for sure) more stupid stuff 
worst possible outcome is having tried hard and supported the good course and what i believe in … not the worst way to loose money …
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Its a gamble, might be feasible during the rewards program depending on where you end up. But do you think that rewards in the future will cover vps costs?
I get that not everyone has great internet connections so I am happy and lucky to be able to concentrate on nodes from home.
Still a sizeable investment if you want to run anything remotely competitive and muuuuch harder to reach large numbers.
At least with home nodes it is not a recurring cost.
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Doesn’t work with the node version specified in the OP. Is the latest version OK with this testnet? If not, would someone of you using UPNP be so kind to tell what version you are using, please?
I’m also interested in the best client version at the moment.
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I’m looking forward to uploads being reliable. Once data is on the network, it seems there to stay now though, which is awesome!
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Hmmm OP version. Gimme a minute I’ll try to spin one up.
Edit: @Toivo
josh@pc1:~$ safenode --version
safenode cli 0.106.2
josh@pc1:~$ safe --version
sn_cli 0.91.2
josh@pc1:~$ safenode --upnp
Logging to directory: "/home/josh/.local/share/safe/node/12D3KooWCw1CZcXoQnQNrwtSubPZrhsidKSfR3NCWtnWTshLqcDE/logs"
Node started
PeerId is 12D3KooWCw1CZcXoQnQNrwtSubPZrhsidKSfR3NCWtnWTshLqcDE
You can check your reward balance by running:
`safe wallet balance --peer-id=12D3KooWCw1CZcXoQnQNrwtSubPZrhsidKSfR3NCWtnWTshLqcDE`
bunch of records minutes later.
josh@pc1:~/.local/share/safe/node/12D3KooWCw1CZcXoQnQNrwtSubPZrhsidKSfR3NCWtnWTshLqcDE/record_store$ ls -1 | wc -l
1042
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Damn I have the compute power & storage to run a few thousand nodes, but have virtually no upload capacity in comparison. At this time i will be running nodes on 2 Odysseys with each on its own ISP connection. Maybe 50 or 60 nodes max
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Thanks, safenode cli 0.106.2 did the trick. (EDIT: Oh that was actually in the OP, I first got the version from the thread of the previous testnet 
) I now have three nodes running, going to put some more after a while.
Initial CPU was at about 15% per node, now at around 0,5% - 1,5%, occasionally a bit more and less.
Tried to get tokens from faucet, but:
Transfer deserialisation failed
If anyone would like to send me some, here is the address:
aaac160b9ad6b416ed57725d720391b962558c297043314aca101c7ebd4781bab2ef53a5550a851644c57b83f5834aca
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I have found that it uses significantly less bandwidth than I thought.
My slow downs were always state table it seems. 200Mbps will get you a couple hundred nodes with a decent router.
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I have 40 + 25 upload. The 40 has to have enough b/w left for the household so effectively its 20-25 up only.
I plan to have decent router on the house ISP
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OK, so my new router seems to be working nicely, and our home network seems to be tolerating at least 27 nodes now. 
Though with my old router the big Wi-Fi killer was actually up- and downloads from testnets, not so much the nodes. We well see soon how it goes now, but at least I enabled the priorities to the needs of other family members from the router. 
Some questions:
I’m running my node with UPNP. Is there a reason or benefit for the network to setup hairpin NAT? I’m not 100% sure how it is done, but with the best of my understanding it should be like the image below. The blurred area includes the IP of my laptop, any guesses if that is enough?
At the moment out of my 27 nodes, none has earned. None shows the records in Vdash, but they are in the folders. One is Shunned x1 whatever that means. Is anyone else earning at the moment?
My plan from here on is that I’ll run as many nodes continuously on my Linux laptop as I can. The machine is dedicated to all things Autonomi. Then I have another Windows laptop, that I use for work. With that I’m going to run as many nodes as I can without interfering my work. That machine is going to be turned off for the nights, and whenever I need to carry it somewhere. Then I have a third, quite old laptop, and I’ll see what I can do with that. Probably install Linux, and run as many nodes as possible.
My connection is at the moment 400 down / 50 up. I could update it to 1GB / 100MB, but I may run out of devices, or router performance before…
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Not working for me:
Connecting to the network with 49 peers
🔗 Connected to the Network
Downloading "ubuntu-18.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso" from f2fe721b1f3f7538de3d6003107a6db799e2f07ac0a0981aa8eae8ae3922cd8e with batch-size 16
Error downloading "ubuntu-18.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso": Network Error GetRecord Query Error RecordNotFound.
real 0m11,883s
user 0m1,957s
sys 0m1,003s
This is also failing after about 230 chunks:
Downloading "ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso" from 80d88c666263718d9ee271acdf38710065d4cc235837eed7fa7314f0a53d8080 with batch-size 16
Error downloading "ubuntu-23.04-desktop-amd64.iso": Chunks error Chunk could not be retrieved from the network: 8f1618(10001111)...