Is that a Wave on the Horizon? Beta Rewards are coming ashore!

[neo]

@Michael_Hills

Sure but it installs everything needed to run nodes, and helps to start them, no

Like @Josh says.

VDash just reads the log files and reports on them in real time. It was written by @happybeing to do that.

At this time the easy way to run nodes is using the launchpad (or whatever its official name is). It is a front end to safenode-manager which is a manager for the actual nodes

[Michael_Hills]

Ok, I guess I’m fooling myself. I did install node-manager first. I get it.

[storage_guy]

I think what we need is something that watches the log for entries for when nanos are earned and keeps a running total for each node.

[happybeing]

vdash does that.

[storage_guy]

Yes, but some people won’t run vdash from the beginning, or quit it, or it might crash. Happens sometimes. I think it’s unlikely to stay running for months. I think we need something simpler and lighter for just tea rings specifically. Not that I’m volunteering! I might be able manage a script to look through the logs to do a count but it won’t be clever.

[JimCollinson]

I think you might like the Node Launchpad (and the Discord Bot)

[Nigel]

Hey @JimCollinson ! Just want to clarify.

Any tokens earned from Beta rewards by nodes hosted in the USA can’t persist or be redeemed in live network, passed the last beta network?

In other words, use it or lose it.

But during the beta the earned tokens can be used to pay for storage that will persist OR you can trade them in for other rewards?

That leads me to what are the other rewards? Is fiat or other crypto on that list?

I don’t take any issue with this cause I can see it could be a really useful stress test and great way to get free data storage whilst seeding the network. Positive feedback loop. But I am looking for clarity.

[Michael_Hills]

I just update my Ubuntu to 24.04, but the node launchpad won’t open no matter what I do. Any ideas? It worked fine on my mac.

[happybeing]

It should be fine. I used the earlier version on Ub24 and just checked it runs. Have you set it executable? If yes, how are you trying to run it and what happens.

You should be opening a terminal and in the directory where it is, typing ./node-launchpad

[Michael_Hills]

Yes it is excitable, When i double click it or right click it to open nothing happens, I’ll try opening it in its directory. Thanks

[Michael_Hills]

Yep, i typed in the folder path /node-launchpad, as you suggested, and it worked fine, thanks again

[Bogard]

@Dimitar

what I don’t understand is the alternative. Shall we go back in time and tell David to anonymously release the project like Satoshi?

Will try again. Here’s an example of alternative.
Instead of A (= collecting a royalty that is effectively a price increase on users/clients; a royalty is supposed to be shared fairly to anyone in the world but in actually will never be be as is slowly coming into picture for all to see now–and we haven’t even reached the hidden factors that will make things even worse)…

do B (= no royalties; just husband well the genesis allocation and let the network grow and be used in whatever way users decide and support).

[Michael_Hills]

Another question, I want to put my nodes on an external drive, is this only possible with node manger? What would be the path for Ubuntu? Like: /media/x9Pro, something like that? Or /dev/sda2? Thanks

[storage_guy]

@Michael_Hills

I want to put my nodes on an external drive, is this only possible with node manger? What would be the path for Ubuntu? Like: /media/x9Pro, something like that? Or /dev/sda2? Thanks

It will totally be possible. You’ll just have to know what the directory is that nodes will use and mount the drive at that location.

eg. with safenode-manager running through sudo it is:-

/var/safenode-manager/

With node-launchpad it would be:-

~/.local/share/safe/

[Michael_Hills]

Great thanks, that helps!

[JimCollinson]

Time to prep!

Beta Rewards Network Launch Tonight — Here's what you need to do!

Ok, so a little home work for you intrepid Betaneers who will be running nodes tonight (and beyond) and riding the Rewards Waves. If you have been running nodes in test nets here’s what you need to do to prepare. You’ll need to reset your tools, ready to get on the new Network, and get your Discord Username locked and loaded. Here’s how to do that: If you are a Node Launchpad user Go and grab the latest Node Launchpad here Run it. You can follow these instructions you need to Press [Ctrl+G] …

[Michael_Hills]

Ok so i think i mounted the drive correctly:

/sudo mkdir /home/mysecretname/.local/share/safe

This should work when creating nodes directly on this external drive, through node launchpad, correct?

[Dimitar]

@Bogard

Will try again. Here’s an example of alternative.

Before there was a Foundation, we discussed all kinds of alternatives. I have always been in favor of the creation of a Foundation because it increases the chance of success of this particular network and I have repeatedly argued for it:

1 MAID = 2 SAFE Coins?

Greed is not bad in small communities because it is offset by people’s desire to be part of the community. This means that you do not put your profit before the life of your neighbor. Unfortunately, outside of small communities, greed leads to the problem of the common good. This means that personal gain is put before other people’s lives. This is the reason why I say that we need a Foundation that receives part of the inflation and takes care of our common interest. If we rely only on the …

What I am trying to say is that now at this point in time a path has been chosen. Let’s see how far we can go this time together.

Regardless of whether the path proves good or bad, if the technology works (which is already obvious) crossroads will appear - new copies of the protocol with different tokenomics.

It’s human nature - everyone has an opinion and people with different opinions come together in waves. The question is whether you are with us in this wave or you will wait for the next one.

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Privacy. Security. Freedom

[joshuef]

As mentioned on the stages last night/this morning a few hours ago (and more details here)

We’re delaying launch until 12GMT (noon) while we wrangle a bot!

Thanks for your understanding

[Michael_Hills]

@Michael_Hills

/home/mysecretname/.local/share/safe

Ok the external ssd drive mounts fine at the path above, but when I run node-launchpad with ctrl g it still only finds the internal drive, and not the external one.

When I run node-launchpad, I use this path:

/home/mysecretname/.local/share/safe/node-launchpad

Which is the same as the mounted ssd. Any ideas?

Thanks so much