Are the videos that are viewable through sn_httpd themselves residing on the Autonomi network, or is there some sort of tunnel through to the centralized web such that what we are seeing is more directly linked to “the outside”?
Data is pulled directly from Autonomi network with no centralised intermediary. Its just like an alternative to downloading via the CLI, really.
Under the hood, sn_httpd uses the Autonomi client API (in its experimental form) to pull down archives and their files directly from the network.
So, you can upload files using the Autonomi CLI (or ‘dave’ when it is released, presumably) and then browse the files through via the HTTP protocol.
You can run sn_httpd as a local service, accessible by only your machine. You can even set it up as a proxy to route all requests to it.
Alternatively, you can run it in the cloud or on a public server, allowing others to access it. Either way, the data is all pulled directly from Autonomi network.
Edit: Uploading via HTTP will be possible too and worked in the past on an old API version. I just wanted to concentrate on downloads first! 
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What apps (demand side of network) will really bring people to the network?
My take on this is - we don’t know yet!
There are lots of platforms where the ‘killer app’ turned out to not be what people expected. Most of the time it was one that hadn’t yet been invented. Some of the time it was one that had been thought about but wouldn’t have even been possible or feasible before. Some of the time it was one that couldn’t have been foreseen.
I’m sure filesharing, personal data, archiving, corporate data, social apps, and messaging will end up on it. I don’t doubt shared computing as well as access to data will end up on it. I’m sure Mr Irvine is on to something with AI models accessing personal data in a controlled way and sharing AI models. That could be the killer app.
But I bet it’s something else we’ve not thought of yet!
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A youtube style of APP, if done decently, will eventually become a big one. Uploader owns their videos, chooses who sponsers them, if anyone, and not beholden to youtube rules.
Its more of a a youtube for each creator/uploader and using the same protocol so the viewing Apps can work across all these “channels”. No need for numerous streaming services since its a per creator service who chooses for themselves how to work it, just provide the pointer data structure for the viewer app.
In general at the moment social media style of App will be a winner since it reverses the ownership of ones data/life
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And advertisement is getting more and more annoying at YouTube/amazon prime/…an ad free experience would be so nice…
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Well maybe not quite ad free since the creator can still run sponsorships and/or adverts in their video.
Of course people can ignore those who have annoying adverts. I wouldn’t mind so much if they are just a few seconds and seamless. Like Linus tech tips who pushes the acceptable limits but is bearable. A few seconds here and there and tries to make it useful then advert at end you can just click off
None of this youtube inserting adverts in the middle of say a rocket launch. And then some are 1/2 hour long you have to race to click the skip. Podcast type videos with those inserted adverts are the worse since you may not be near the computer/phone using headphones and the advert goes on and on and on for 5, 10, or even 30 minutes
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True - and nothing against some smallish ads to finance the channel/app…
At YouTube I lately get pushed 30+ seconds advertisement breaks… That’s way beyond acceptable … I would assume such a behavior would result in re-publish with cut out advertisement on autonomi
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Feels like these guys should use the network: https://www.antweb.org/ 
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Excellent find, @Traktion
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Nice! Static website - low change rate - comparatively low traffic - quick win.
From the footer:-
" AntWeb is hosted and supported by the California Academy of Sciences."
so there’s a bigger picture and this would be a thin slice of the pie to prove value.
‘Land and Expand’
(I talk to too many IT salespeople…)
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This is actually the right answer. Criminals are often the first to integrate new tech.
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Thinking about web apps and getting a chat client going… I have been looking at this free, decentralized peer to peer chat project, and it seems it could be modified to use Autonomi for peer discovery (it currently has built options including BitTorrent and some others). Others with more knowledge may be able to weigh in, I’m hoping to get some eyes on this for idea generation.
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See also:
A serverless, peer-to-peer chat built using trystero.
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This would be pretty cool to port to an autonomi backend. It looks like the source data is CSVs. I haven’t looked into it deeply, but i think they get dumped into a DB then queried.
Pushing this sort of public data to the network would be cool and could make hosting cheaper.
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I think because we are using Crypto as a stepping stone to the native token, whatever the killer app is should be focused on the crypto market. We will likely see the market grow to 10 trillion by the end of this cycle.
There has to be something Autonomi can do in a way that is not possible with current solutions in crypto. What is that?
When we get native token then the killer apps will be for regular folk.
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Some things that seem to annoy many decentralisation focused crypto projects is reliance on centralised, censorship prone platforms like Discord, for communications.
An Autonomi based Discord alternative, forum software, X alternative, and ability to share files would all be useful. And, obviously a decentralised internet browser & domain name system would be useful.
MVP before TGE?
I feel it would be worth considering delaying TGE until there are some solid apps and a good UX to enable organically growing demand for the network’s resources, which I think is required for network viability.
I hope Dave + a few cool community apps are available ahead of TGE so people can actually use the tokens on the network without needing to be great with command line etc… if this won’t be the case, might delaying 2-3 months with a focus on app development be worthwhile?
I hope TGE ahead of utility isn’t putting the cart before the horse in a way that is counterproductive… or I hope that easy to access network utility improves significantly in the coming few weeks!
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After a glass of champagne I just got some thoughts to share. I got a vision of a microtransaction solution for example social media were a producer could have like a qr code with an ANT logo that when scaned would open up a wallet with a easy to pay setup.
Also a phone backup tool that lets you choose to backup documents, videos, pictures, sms, address list and so on. The backup for phones might be huge if done right, I just read about people who lost all their cloud pictures when changing between different mobile network operators.
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A file sharing app. That is the killer app the world wants. Or basically: the ability to rendering HTML5/ index pages from the network in a browser (plugin?) - this opens the door to everything we need and fast development.
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