PunchBowl [Testnet 09/05/2024] [Offline]

[Southside]

its gubbed…

willie@gagarin:~$ safe wallet send 1.8 953ad94acacb79f3925d42e5218f4b5cfe4360526090ae056ce265df667fc34e593c239489b86fe480f30cf9b809450d
Logging to directory: "/home/willie/.local/share/safe/client/logs/log_2024-05-23_19-04-55"
safe client built with git version: b0e028e / stable / b0e028e / 2024-05-20
Instantiating a SAFE client...
Connecting to the network with 49 peers
🔗 Connected to the Network                                                                                               Wallet has pre-unconfirmed transactions, can't progress further.
Failed to send NanoTokens(1800000000) to 953ad94acacb79f3925d42e5218f4b5cfe4360526090ae056ce265df667fc34e593c239489b86fe480f30cf9b809450d due to Wallet(UnconfirmedTxAfterRetries).
Error: 
   0: Wallet Error Unconfirmed transactions still persist even after retries.
   1: Unconfirmed transactions still persist even after retries

We need a new testnet…

[peca]

@neo

2 nodes behind the one router talking to each other (they don’t talk)

This could be solved by configuring hairpin NAT on router, am I right?

[Toivo]

@Toivo

My routers Port Sharing tab shows that the one having 17 nodes has 17 “Independent port sharing” enabled, but the one having 21 nodes has only 15. If I remember right, it used to have more, maybe even the amount of nodes. Is this normal?

Hah, now the one having 21 nodes shows 0 shared ports on the router! But there are no more shunned nodes and GETs are happening all the time. It has even earned more. What is this?

The other Laptop with 17 nodes still has 17 "Independent Port Sharing"s enabled.

I’ll leave them running and check back in the morning.

Whatever it is, it is pretty damn nice to have some nodes running from home again and participate testing. Cheers to all!

[riddim]

Please share this to the recipient:

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

not super much - but 1.5 token

[neo]

@Toivo

If I remember right, it used to have more, maybe even the amount of nodes. Is this normal?

Some must have dropped due to inactivity. The router would prune the upnp connections after a period of time.

Maybe this is something that the node s/w may have to account for, a hicup (no activity) for some seconds causing the router to drop the upnp assignment. @joshuef does the node keep alive the upnp connection? If not then maybe @Toivo could give you the logs for those nodes next time he sees this happening

@Toivo

but it does not have any evident effect on the nodes running.

You won’t typically notice it until you realise they are no longer earning. It was the same for not setting up port forwarding and/or firewall rules for port forwarding. The nodes fill up with churn chunks but no earnings.

@peca

configuring hairpin NAT on router, am I right?

If its available and teh router s/w actually does it properly

[joshuef]

@neo

@joshuef For safenode started without specifying the port number, the node s/w chooses a random port number doesn’t it?

yup

@neo

So if someone is starting hundreds of nodes on the one device then what is to stop 2 nodes ending up trying to use the one listening port??

It does check the port availability. If they’re all started concurrently, there could be a crossover, but I imagine it’d be a small chance.

@neo

@joshuef does the node keep alive the upnp connection? If not then maybe @Toivo could give you the logs for those nodes next time he sees this happening

cc @bzee for when he’s back and @roland (im unsure)

[R43]

Pricey storage on my nodes.

MS Defender is reporting safenode.exe as a trojan.

[storage_guy]

@Southside

Has anyone been able to upload anything recently?

I started my uploading of small random files again last night. It has been down for a couple of days as it ran out of token and I was too busy to check. It was working. Might still be if it’s not run out again. Too busy to look!

[Toivo]

@neo

@Toivo

If I remember right, it used to have more, maybe even the amount of nodes. Is this normal?

Some must have dropped due to inactivity. The router would prune the upnp connections after a period of time.

This is it.

Yesterday I used my computer for some time on battery power. I suspends after 15 minutes. I did a test today and it seems that the router drops the connections very soon after the computer has gone into suspension.

On re-activation nothing on Vdash indicates any change has happened. GETs and PUTs are rolling and everything seems business as usual. For example on this test I even had one node updating a StoreCost price, which I have been thinking as a sign that the node is reachable externally. That probably happened some time during dimmed screen before the laptop went into suspension.

[storage_guy]

@storage_guy

Might still be if it’s not run out again.

Yes, it had stopped as ran out of tokens. Gave it some and started it again.

@happybeing , here is another shiny token for you!

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Don’t spend it all on the same node!

[Josh]

We haven’t really tried upgrading nodes have we?

I think Maidsafe tried once but without us all using node-manager at the time.

@joshuef any chance we can try to resurrect this punchbowl with a upgrade or are should we celebrate a life well lived.

[joshuef]

@Josh

@joshuef any chance we can try to resurrect this punchbowl with a upgrade or are should we celebrate a life well lived.

I’d say celebrate a life well lived.

There are new node versions out, BUTTTTTtttttt. They are not punchbowl compatible.

Sadly I’ve had such a pain with the release process today, I just reliased when I did get it working that -alpha is missing from the versions there

But the new releases are not compatible here, I’m afraid.

edit:

Is the consensus this is dead then? Time to down this one, or still useful for some folk?

[chriso]

@aatonnomicc

Thursdays here would be a nice day for a fresh test net to set us up for the weekend

Just curious here. Do you mean a new testnet every week just with whatever is on main at the time?

[aatonnomicc]

Not a full tear down every week if it’s still running let it run.

We have new people popping up in here its nice to have a network online for them to check out.

[chriso]

Right, cool.

@aatonnomicc

We have new people popping up in here its nice to have a network online for them to check out.

Yeah, we are gonna have this quite soon.

[aatonnomicc]

I promise not to wreck the next one

[riddim]

i think i ended up at pretty robust settings too and will try to not mess with it either

[aatonnomicc]

Same here next test net ill start nodes and leave them alone untill told to upgrade them no messing around !!

[neo]

Still we need to test strange behaviour. But maybe a little later. The live network will not be treated better than that, just we expect the strange behaviour not to affect 1/3 of the network at once

[aatonnomicc]

Fully agree a good kicking before the real world but I want to let the next one fly and see how far she goes.