So, ive set up 20 nodes, have received 10 recs.
Any way to tell if theyre working properly?
Ill probably need to move to cli, anyone know of any guides?
Launcher does seem better in linux.
Edit
records are still incoming id assume thats a good sign.
28 nodes 27 recs
Well it failed at 46 nodes, tad better than widows.
Does someone pls have cli instructions, or do i need to go to discord.
Cant use discord.accepting the rules interaction keeps failingā¦
Anyone able to helo / advise?
Are you on Windows, Mac or Linux?
Do you have the antnode binary installed yet?
These are the things weāll need to know.
The antnode CLI has good explanation of the commands and the flags but Iāll definitely help you get used to it when Iām back on tomorrow.
Thanks. I need to sleep.
Dimitar left me some instruction on discord but theyre well beyond me. ( for 6k nodes )
I havent downloaded anuthing as yet, i think thats my issue!
Im thinking surely thetes a set of instructions for creating x no of plots on x drive etc.
( sorry, was referrig to cli above as id given up on launchpad for now)
I have only downloaded launchpad on both win and now linux, but they both became unresponsive despite low system load.
Iāve been running a node for just over 3 weeks uninterrupted but havenāt received a single atos. Is this normal?
How many nodes have you been running? One?
If just one node then it is quite possible that you have not earned anything. If you had been running 20+ nodes over several weeks and got nothing then there might be a problem
If you had been running 100+ nodes over a few weeks and got nothing then there is most likely a problem.
But a single node could possibly take months or more to get any reward.
I only managed to get them to live for a short while.
In both instances the window closed itself and would not reopen.
They were both with launchpad.
I need to look ar the cli.
Hmm ok. That still seems wrong - a single ant is worth ~2p, but I havenāt even earned 0.000001 of an ant after 3 weeks? It is a single full node. This makes it less than worthless to run.
I figured running lots of small nodes from the same machine is pointless (other than to game the rewards system perhaps) - specifically since it doesnāt provide real redundancy. On a single machine all nodes are likely to fail/shutdown at the same time for the same reason.
As I understand it, it was always like this and will be until
I could be wrong here but thats how I think of it.
The emissions scheme is merely a subsidy until point 2 becomes more valid. I am avoiding discussion of the merits and size of the emissions scheme for now, otherwise we will get bogged down. Emissions was also about getting the token into as many hands as possible.
Running a single node will NOT be profitable/worthwhile. I was always a bit wary of the ārun a single node on your phone in Kenya and gain economic advantageā story. Nice thought and possibly valid at some point in distant future but not for now or anytime soon.
EDIT Somebody please correct me on the above.
Yes you do. 
IMHO the Launchpad is to get relatively non-tech interested and giving them a sense of contributing ( always good) but nodes from Launchpad are unlikely to be major contributors to network performance at this time. Maybe in a few years when we have much more massive participation that sentiment could change.
Launchpad is a good tool for beginners and I totally appreciate the work that has gone into it. But it was only ever an introā¦
I donāt care about making a profit, I just want a handful of tokens so I can test some code/uploads. But I also want to see the earning work in practice. How does the team plan to get people interested if they canāt earn anything. How do you even market the network if NOBODY except a handful of geeks and tinkerers (and whales) can earn ants (at any price). Are they just going to lie to people? Like they did with saying we can run it on phones or old desktops lying around? You are probably right that its not worthwhile, but thats a problem not because people canāt make a profit, but because you canāt market it very well, at least not honestly. I donāt even feel like I can contribute for FREE!
THe earning does work in practice, just not at the levels we would prefer.
Performance need sorted first
A bloody good question
I can run fine with old desktops and laptops, phones can and will come but not this month or next
Please do not be discouraged and just run as many nodes as you can. If you need ANT for uploads, DM me an address and I will send you a few.
Donāt worry about the redundancy - running multiple nodes on the same machine is fine and redundancy is taken care of at the network level. Running 50 nodes (easily feasible at home) is better for the network than running just 1. And you pretty much have to run a few to be able to earn something useful.
Iāve started 50 nodes again after a major reorg of my ādatacentreā (everything north of the sofa!) and Iāve earned 0.113249257084873616 in the last day.
The 50 nodes are using less than 3Mb/s up and down in total on average and less than 1,000 connections so this easily fits into a low bandwidth ADSL connection with a Broadband supplier router. I have the same setup running in some friendsā houses with no issues. The nodes are under resourced in terms of storage by about 50% which Iām not totally happy about but that is not a problem while the usage of the network is low. Go for it!
I will also send you a couple of ANT if you want them for testing. And a small amount of ETH on Arbitrum so you can use the ANT if you donāt have some. You just have to post or DM an ETH Arbitrum address.
Just to clarify, running 50 nodes or 1 on the same machine is not better for the network because if the machine goes down then all nodes goes down.
It would be better for the network if you are run 50 nodes on 50 different machines or even better 50 nodes on 50 different machines on 50 different ipās on 50 different locations, that would be better for the network.
Running 1 or 50 on the same machine, same ip, same location is at best indifferent.
Itās the game everyone is playing, especially those at scale. Until there is a meaningful data quantity on the network, itās just a game to claim as many emissions as possible (unfortunately).
Still, donāt blame the players, blame the game. I hope more data through Merkle trees will start to chip away at this. Or a u-turn on emissions (one can dream!).
Isnāt it actually worse for the network to run multiple nodes on one machine in terms of risk of data loss. The network can handle losing one node without issue, but 50-1000 nodes all at once is obviously going to be more difficult for the network to keep up with redundancy. And given that the only real advantage of Autonomi over other storage solutions now - given privacy/anonymity is no longer a part of the project - is the networks unique ability to permanently store data. I do not believe there are anywhere near the claimed 45PB of storage available on the network right now - as the website claims (how it is even possible to verify this currently?). Also the ~1.5 million nodes are likely distributed across just 1000s maybe just 100ās of computers (and probably not much more hard drives than computers). So for example if say 5 computers go down, it could potentially be the equivalent of 100,000 nodes going offline at once. Does the network have redundancy even for that small amount of computers failing? Has the team been able to test any of this?
Thanks for the offer but I want to work on a network that has good redundancy, for permanent data storage. Running lots of nodes on a single machines is reducing redundancy and harming the ability of the network to do what it is supposed to do. There are 1.5 million nodes already. I donāt think it is sensible to encourage people set up multiple nodes on a single machine, it clearly isnāt needed. it seems we have gone from requiring crypto to support the network to requiring the network to support the crypto. The nodes are in a ponzi expansion: creating more nodes to address the problem of too many nodes is not a solution to anything unless you are crypto trader.
The network is not filled to a high % yet, you will need to lower number the number of nodes when network fills to a higher level, right now it is like below 0,1% filled or something.
Jane you are theoretically correct (kinda) but practically dead wrong. Sorry about thatā¦
Most if not all of the OGs here are not crypto traders in any serious way and we have been happy(ish) to support it through thick and thin.
Iād love to deliver you the moon on a stick but its not going to happen. Your negativity is becoming wearing. Sorry about that.