72 hours of Autonomi

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Any idea how many farmers is this?

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shows 209,665 Holders. But that will include people who have converted eMaid to ANT.

To guess at how many node runners there are you’d have to go through all the transactions and count the unique addresses that have been sent either a payment for storing a chunk or one of the rewards for running good nodes. There will be people still using multiple addresses for their nodes though even though that isn’t necessary to get maximum rewards now.

We know there are individual users running thousands of nodes but some running less than 10. Discounting the big boys I think the mean number of nodes people will be running will be less than 50.

And you have to figure that MaidSafe are running a significant number of nodes themselves.

I’m going to guess that the number of individual node runners is around 50,000.

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That also means 50k individual supporting the network and soon provide liquidity to the token

I can only speak for myself, but FWIW as a node op running thousands (but not tens of thousands) of nodes, I won’t even consider selling ANT for multiple years. Not even one.

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Don’t forget will include all the sepolia accounts since they will have received ANT rewards. Even if people are not using them now for connecting to their nodes

Not all the wallets have received their hosting/earning rewards yet. I have a couple waiting to receive them

Not a good idea any more unless its like people who have one address per machine with nodes. Much easier to assess how a machine is performing

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come on, there is only 2000+ people in discord

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Yes, and my guess that most are bots. I would say that there are about 200 people running nodes, of which I know 20 Bulgarians. :dragon:


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One full week of Autonomi, here’s the past 72 hours:

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It is long past time to stop kidding ourselves on about these numbers.
Cos the worst mistake you can make is to lie to yourself.

Can we agree on the following?

  • 1, 2 even 3 million nodes is mighty impressive. The code is doing what the code is meant to do. That’s great and should be minimum expectation.

  • 3 million nodes == 3million lottery tickets and guaranteed income for those with the resources to rent most of Hetzner and other VPS suppliers for a few weeks

  • 3 million nodes that store zero or minimal records proves the square root of sod-all.

  • 3 million nodes that are not stressed in the slightest by either uploads or downloads proves the square root of sod-all.

If we can accept the above, then we are in a better place. And there will be less cognitive dissonance when it goes tits up when it does get some load

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The fact we’re impressed by the numbers tells me 2 things:

  1. They’re impressive to us
  2. They will be impressive to potential partners

Tuning the rewards down again to see how well the network can shrink will be interesting too.

I’m sure the team have their reasons. I doubt they want to squander funds.

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Exactly - we do not, cannot and , I would argue, should not be able to see the range of constraints they are up against. Many of these constraints may be commercially confidential.

But it is extremely frustrating right now :slight_smile:

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It’s been 18 years. A bottle of nice scotch was distilled when David started. Maybe open one and enjoy a little. This is a time to celebrate and refill the well for the next phase of the journey, which will require plenty of hard work.

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We have done that, it was Bunnahabhain in my case.

This is a time now to validate the work that has been done by a period of structured testing to back up the unwarranted triumphalism of “3 million nodes”

It will be lots of hard work, work that can and should be shared with the community, indeed can ONLY happen by involving the community doing structured up/download tasks.
We have successfully poked the “How many nodes can we run?” corner of the envelope. It is now time to look at poking all the corners of the envelope and discovering corners we didn’t even know about until now.

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Would be interesting to know how all these nodes are located on the world map.

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Sure, I agree, there’s plenty of work to do. But unless you’re going to jump in and get coding, the frustration probably isn’t helping you. (or the project)

I suppose I’m a bit disappointed by the somewhat dour mood. Dev takes time, it’s happening, don’t let your constitution wane.

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Hell no - look what is happening to Yanks when they let that happen to them :slight_smile:

I have tried the coding - I’m pretty shit at it once we get past simple scripting.
What I can do - and I think most of us can manage, is follow along to a well-written set of instructions on how to effectively test the capacity and resilience of the nodes we have got.

Some may go as far as to mention a “test schedule”. And the really ambitious amongst us may dream of FATs Final Acceptance Tests

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It’s coming, I guarantee it. (and it’s not months away)

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Insert dubious joke about a sore wrist

Insert dubious joke about a sore wrist

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