Any idea how many farmers is this?
shows 209,665 Holders. But that will include people who have converted eMaid to ANT.
To guess at how many node runners there are you’d have to go through all the transactions and count the unique addresses that have been sent either a payment for storing a chunk or one of the rewards for running good nodes. There will be people still using multiple addresses for their nodes though even though that isn’t necessary to get maximum rewards now.
We know there are individual users running thousands of nodes but some running less than 10. Discounting the big boys I think the mean number of nodes people will be running will be less than 50.
And you have to figure that MaidSafe are running a significant number of nodes themselves.
I’m going to guess that the number of individual node runners is around 50,000.
That also means 50k individual supporting the network and soon provide liquidity to the token
Don’t forget will include all the sepolia accounts since they will have received ANT rewards. Even if people are not using them now for connecting to their nodes
Not all the wallets have received their hosting/earning rewards yet. I have a couple waiting to receive them
Not a good idea any more unless its like people who have one address per machine with nodes. Much easier to assess how a machine is performing
come on, there is only 2000+ people in discord
Yes, and my guess that most are bots. I would say that there are about 200 people running nodes, of which I know 20 Bulgarians. 
Check out the Dev Forum
It is long past time to stop kidding ourselves on about these numbers.
Cos the worst mistake you can make is to lie to yourself.
Can we agree on the following?
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1, 2 even 3 million nodes is mighty impressive. The code is doing what the code is meant to do. That’s great and should be minimum expectation.
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3 million nodes == 3million lottery tickets and guaranteed income for those with the resources to rent most of Hetzner and other VPS suppliers for a few weeks
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3 million nodes that store zero or minimal records proves the square root of sod-all.
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3 million nodes that are not stressed in the slightest by either uploads or downloads proves the square root of sod-all.
If we can accept the above, then we are in a better place. And there will be less cognitive dissonance when it goes tits up when it does get some load
The fact we’re impressed by the numbers tells me 2 things:
- They’re impressive to us
- They will be impressive to potential partners
Tuning the rewards down again to see how well the network can shrink will be interesting too.
I’m sure the team have their reasons. I doubt they want to squander funds.
Exactly - we do not, cannot and , I would argue, should not be able to see the range of constraints they are up against. Many of these constraints may be commercially confidential.
But it is extremely frustrating right now 
We have done that, it was Bunnahabhain in my case.
This is a time now to validate the work that has been done by a period of structured testing to back up the unwarranted triumphalism of “3 million nodes”
It will be lots of hard work, work that can and should be shared with the community, indeed can ONLY happen by involving the community doing structured up/download tasks.
We have successfully poked the “How many nodes can we run?” corner of the envelope. It is now time to look at poking all the corners of the envelope and discovering corners we didn’t even know about until now.
Would be interesting to know how all these nodes are located on the world map.
Hell no - look what is happening to Yanks when they let that happen to them
I have tried the coding - I’m pretty shit at it once we get past simple scripting.
What I can do - and I think most of us can manage, is follow along to a well-written set of instructions on how to effectively test the capacity and resilience of the nodes we have got.
Some may go as far as to mention a “test schedule”. And the really ambitious amongst us may dream of FATs Final Acceptance Tests
Insert dubious joke about a sore wrist
Insert dubious joke about a sore wrist
Not being married means you don’t have to be so careful about where you insert.
Can we have a show of hands about whether we can take the tone of this thread even lower?
A thoroughly tested network that does not make as-yet unproven claims does indeed have a bright future
Is there a link to node volume? Apologies if missed, so many posts to read!
It would seem this is being allowed to continue to stress one parameter and that is intraoperative nature of the network and ability to do quoting (ie nodes working right and contactable and assumed to be able to store)
The team I am sure are at least as smart as we are (more so I expect and more experienced in the project) and can see this issue and are working on the next step or know the next step. Maybe 5 million or 10 million is the target before changing things
I don’t know but guessing and taking David’s works about wanting to see a very large network as part of the plans
With an extract of logs I can tell you that. Need some with say 10,000 nodes to run a single command line to extract the needed entries (it also cuts out the unneeded text). and then upload the extract somewhere, maybe encrypted if public.
If you want to help you can DM me. Desire people running linux and storing logs and have over 2,000 nodes. Zip files can be uploaded in the forum so no need to worry about where to send it.
I did it with 750 of my nodes and got some results but just not enough.
Very true.
I would pay good money to see / hear the behind the scenes discussions on potential strategies and ways forward. I expect the depth and knowledge in those chats would make our (at least my) throwing around of ideas in here look pretty silly 