MaidSafeCoin (MAID) - Price & Trading topic (Part 1)

In a quantum world, wher the observer affects the outcome.
It seems the only rational choice to make.

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You look at what is trying to be accomplished. Try to understand the totality of what they are trying to build. Look at who is doing the work and the community that surrounds them. This is what keeps me positive.

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It’s easier to be positive when you’re productive. Instead of complaining incessantly, think of what you can do to make the future you wish to see.

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The USD value of MAID has actually been pretty stable for months. Of course, some other coins have taken off, but MAID will have its time again. It was only a few months ago the coin was in the top 70. What has changed since then? Not a lot, other than the start of a crypto bull run perhaps.

Sometimes concentrating on the value of the result is better than obsessing over the price during the journey. It doesn’t really matter what the other projects are doing, as long as maidsafe is getting closer to a product.

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That and delistings. Polo being bought by Justin Sun and then delisting because MAID is a “competitor” to TRON kind of put us in limbo. Also when Bittrex US stopped allowing the trading of MAID took a chunk of activity out of the market.

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Has any of that changed the value proposition for SAFENetwork? I don’t think so.

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Hell nah brother!

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Wonder if any bigger tech companies are “silently” following this project? Ya know, for acquisition purposes. And how would that affect the price?

That’d be a touch presumptuous don’tya think?

Extremely unlikely, would be like buying a biotech company that does not even have a successful P1 trial. We have no idea if what has been cooked up works well or not yet until we get a v1 safenetwork.

As for low token price value, it makes sense that it sits this low until we have something of value. Right now we don’t and without marketing hype bs we deservedly will stay that low. So I am glad its value is where its at as a token holder because its reasonable and realistic, I want the price to reflect what MaidSafe delivers on. If we get to v1 and it still sub 1 dollar for an extended time then I will be worried but until then I am a happy camper.

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Very true. And I was thinking after v1 plus proven capability and the requisite shameless amount of media buzz.

Big companies usually wait till the product is developed and proven.

Or at least until a useful capability is developed.

Stats from using the bittrex orderbook script (the full bittrex orderbook is posted at the end of the post, just for historical records since this can’t be put into archive.org)

BTC waiting to buy: 2.4363
MAID waiting to be sold: 2,133,211

We all assume hitbtc fakes volume, so let’s just see how this theory stacks up on other measures rather than just trade volume…

Coinmarketcap MAID markets shows 96% of volume is hitbtc, 4% is bittrex.

Cold storage shows a ratio of 11% hitbtc, 89% bittrex.
Bittrex cold storage: 26,900,835 BTC (1DUb2YYbQA1jjaNYzVXLZ7ZioEhLXtbUru)
Hitbtc cold storage: 3,356,959 BTC (14quvdxXj7h4kcfhhuKX39wRc6X5sodkjM)

hitbtc orderbook shows

BTC waiting to buy: 2.01827 (82% of what bittrex has on the books)
MAID waiting to be sold: 1,035,385 (49% of what bittrex has on the books)

I’m not sure how much ‘real’ volume happens on hitbtc and these figures don’t really allow us to know for sure, but the trade volume there does seem a bit iffy compared to the other metrics that can be compared. It seems clear that bittrex is the ‘bigger’ market despite the much lower trade volume.

Bittrex full orderbook 2020-08-18 23:00 UTC
BUYS
price,maid,btc
0.00000857,88.206,0.0008,
0.00000842,122.077,0.0010,
0.00000841,5976.811,0.0503,
0.00000840,1315.189,0.0110,
0.00000839,91.498,0.0008,
0.00000837,720.917,0.0060,
0.00000836,1649.405,0.0138,
0.00000835,77.844,0.0006,
0.00000834,2393.295,0.0200,
0.00000833,2396.168,0.0200,
0.00000831,489.003,0.0041,
0.00000830,1006.461,0.0084,
0.00000824,285.550,0.0024,
0.00000821,200.000,0.0016,
0.00000819,444.200,0.0036,
0.00000818,640.839,0.0052,
0.00000817,6119.951,0.0500,
0.00000810,366.469,0.0030,
0.00000809,1190.000,0.0096,
0.00000807,495.663,0.0040,
0.00000806,1128.068,0.0091,
0.00000805,2468.600,0.0199,
0.00000802,62.345,0.0005,
0.00000801,2718.313,0.0218,
0.00000800,5206.269,0.0417,
0.00000789,642.000,0.0051,
0.00000784,630.000,0.0049,
0.00000782,623.551,0.0049,
0.00000780,1025.641,0.0080,
0.00000779,5000.000,0.0389,
0.00000777,64.831,0.0005,
0.00000766,1658.149,0.0127,
0.00000765,1658.149,0.0127,
0.00000764,1658.149,0.0127,
0.00000763,1658.149,0.0127,
0.00000762,1658.149,0.0126,
0.00000761,1658.149,0.0126,
0.00000760,1921.307,0.0146,
0.00000759,1658.149,0.0126,
0.00000758,1658.149,0.0126,
0.00000757,3243.354,0.0246,
0.00000756,3900.000,0.0295,
0.00000755,1470.000,0.0111,
0.00000741,1840.000,0.0136,
0.00000715,14095.673,0.1008,
0.00000705,7092.199,0.0500,
0.00000701,1038.579,0.0073,
0.00000700,1797.327,0.0126,
0.00000686,583.090,0.0040,
0.00000666,13140.853,0.0875,
0.00000656,80.000,0.0005,
0.00000650,3162.036,0.0206,
0.00000641,5733.669,0.0368,
0.00000583,25728.988,0.1500,
0.00000568,6537.129,0.0371,
0.00000512,19154.816,0.0981,
0.00000500,14985.756,0.0749,
0.00000470,20265.543,0.0952,
0.00000437,21687.892,0.0948,
0.00000409,25000.000,0.1022,
0.00000403,19149.607,0.0772,
0.00000362,827.075,0.0030,
0.00000361,27700.831,0.1000,
0.00000303,26880.250,0.0814,
0.00000262,1904.588,0.0050,
0.00000261,31380.086,0.0819,
0.00000213,48183.838,0.1026,
0.00000201,25000.000,0.0502,
0.00000145,1376.557,0.0020,
0.00000144,48523.099,0.0699,
0.00000122,53719.208,0.0655,
0.00000112,22263.045,0.0249,
0.00000066,7560.636,0.0050,
0.00000065,3070.782,0.0020,
0.00000064,6094.300,0.0039,
0.00000058,5000.000,0.0029,
0.00000057,1777.368,0.0010,
0.00000056,97987.369,0.0549,
0.00000027,25888.955,0.0070,
0.00000026,19192.384,0.0050,
0.00000024,6094.860,0.0015,
0.00000021,2404.000,0.0005,
0.00000017,3000.000,0.0005,
0.00000016,353924.643,0.0566,
0.00000014,3633.773,0.0005,
0.00000012,33267.798,0.0040,
0.00000009,66555.777,0.0060,
0.00000008,25000.000,0.0020,
0.00000007,7200.000,0.0005,
0.00000006,332667.997,0.0200,
0.00000004,1409250.000,0.0564,
0.00000003,40000.000,0.0012,
0.00000002,25000.000,0.0005,
0.00000001,228387.032,0.0023,


SELLS
price,maid,btc
0.00000860,28.968,0.0002,
0.00000866,175.234,0.0015,
0.00000867,99.500,0.0009,
0.00000868,93.602,0.0008,
0.00000870,109.500,0.0010,
0.00000875,199.000,0.0017,
0.00000884,95.755,0.0008,
0.00000885,149.000,0.0013,
0.00000894,271.781,0.0024,
0.00000895,150.000,0.0013,
0.00000897,508.052,0.0046,
0.00000898,3204.992,0.0288,
0.00000899,9311.172,0.0837,
0.00000902,29999.897,0.2706,
0.00000915,2358.589,0.0216,
0.00000917,125.805,0.0012,
0.00000918,149.054,0.0014,
0.00000919,2712.527,0.0249,
0.00000920,9999.000,0.0920,
0.00000922,532.613,0.0049,
0.00000923,226.755,0.0021,
0.00000926,1500.279,0.0139,
0.00000931,1104.023,0.0103,
0.00000936,4332.670,0.0406,
0.00000941,2443.260,0.0230,
0.00000942,114.958,0.0011,
0.00000943,2258.378,0.0213,
0.00000944,2241.620,0.0212,
0.00000945,60.787,0.0006,
0.00000946,167.776,0.0016,
0.00000950,5000.000,0.0475,
0.00000955,96.277,0.0009,
0.00000956,819.661,0.0078,
0.00000959,114.958,0.0011,
0.00000960,5000.000,0.0480,
0.00000962,107.286,0.0010,
0.00000967,290.000,0.0028,
0.00000970,5000.000,0.0485,
0.00000977,109.753,0.0011,
0.00000979,183.932,0.0018,
0.00000980,5000.000,0.0490,
0.00000983,214.829,0.0021,
0.00000985,1165.893,0.0115,
0.00000987,2960.866,0.0292,
0.00000990,5000.000,0.0495,
0.00000993,112.277,0.0011,
0.00000995,229.915,0.0023,
0.00000996,526.902,0.0052,
0.00000997,250.000,0.0025,
0.00000998,390.000,0.0039,
0.00001000,68575.901,0.6858,
0.00001001,1714.480,0.0172,
0.00001007,3501.768,0.0353,
0.00001024,475.898,0.0049,
0.00001025,2295.000,0.0235,
0.00001026,257.000,0.0026,
0.00001027,168.832,0.0017,
0.00001028,919.876,0.0095,
0.00001030,270.000,0.0028,
0.00001032,132.980,0.0014,
0.00001035,57.689,0.0006,
0.00001036,11514.066,0.1193,
0.00001050,3000.000,0.0315,
0.00001052,52.313,0.0006,
0.00001086,61.558,0.0007,
0.00001087,170.869,0.0019,
0.00001095,851.276,0.0093,
0.00001100,161.960,0.0018,
0.00001101,3133.845,0.0345,
0.00001107,1441.706,0.0160,
0.00001131,910.000,0.0103,
0.00001143,4687.801,0.0536,
0.00001150,2722.669,0.0313,
0.00001159,136.970,0.0016,
0.00001195,3473.000,0.0415,
0.00001196,50.628,0.0006,
0.00001198,181.019,0.0022,
0.00001200,16161.353,0.1939,
0.00001202,500.000,0.0060,
0.00001208,455.373,0.0055,
0.00001210,500.000,0.0060,
0.00001217,1080.000,0.0131,
0.00001224,500.000,0.0061,
0.00001225,60.000,0.0007,
0.00001240,171.529,0.0021,
0.00001245,1124.778,0.0140,
0.00001250,659.379,0.0082,
0.00001268,207.533,0.0026,
0.00001278,1033.308,0.0132,
0.00001285,965.000,0.0124,
0.00001286,141.081,0.0018,
0.00001292,2142.616,0.0277,
0.00001300,3000.000,0.0390,
0.00001302,5995.365,0.0781,
0.00001305,4531.400,0.0591,
0.00001306,208.646,0.0027,
0.00001320,19302.796,0.2548,
0.00001336,161.960,0.0022,
0.00001339,3120.610,0.0418,
0.00001340,228.750,0.0031,
0.00001345,680.320,0.0092,
0.00001349,35090.000,0.4734,
0.00001350,400.000,0.0054,
0.00001360,105.000,0.0014,
0.00001363,181.441,0.0025,
0.00001368,664.542,0.0091,
0.00001375,10000.000,0.1375,
0.00001379,10000.000,0.1379,
0.00001380,201.365,0.0028,
0.00001382,5200.000,0.0719,
0.00001385,5259.893,0.0728,
0.00001394,3710.336,0.0517,
0.00001398,200.000,0.0028,
0.00001413,145.313,0.0021,
0.00001415,46.678,0.0007,
0.00001431,157.000,0.0022,
0.00001436,7889.839,0.1133,
0.00001450,100.200,0.0015,
0.00001461,1124.778,0.0164,
0.00001468,309.250,0.0045,
0.00001495,750.000,0.0112,
0.00001498,3842.912,0.0576,
0.00001499,888.803,0.0133,
0.00001500,64261.556,0.9639,
0.00001508,124.045,0.0019,
0.00001525,69.178,0.0011,
0.00001528,3804.345,0.0581,
0.00001540,149.670,0.0023,
0.00001558,5000.000,0.0779,
0.00001561,33.226,0.0005,
0.00001564,400.000,0.0063,
0.00001566,2005.299,0.0314,
0.00001568,8177.173,0.1282,
0.00001569,20274.658,0.3181,
0.00001572,1306.000,0.0205,
0.00001578,1900.000,0.0300,
0.00001580,3500.000,0.0553,
0.00001599,245.116,0.0039,
0.00001600,22293.409,0.3567,
0.00001608,116.068,0.0019,
0.00001610,44.237,0.0007,
0.00001638,180.747,0.0030,
0.00001650,36.597,0.0006,
0.00001652,87.829,0.0015,
0.00001667,154.163,0.0026,
0.00001680,350.384,0.0059,
0.00001694,1277.824,0.0216,
0.00001699,547.484,0.0093,
0.00001700,16717.806,0.2842,
0.00001720,30468.956,0.5241,
0.00001735,46.000,0.0008,
0.00001739,80.701,0.0014,
0.00001760,210.170,0.0037,
0.00001766,87.829,0.0016,
0.00001778,8382.085,0.1490,
0.00001780,12520.731,0.2229,
0.00001788,719.094,0.0129,
0.00001790,33.525,0.0006,
0.00001794,158.788,0.0028,
0.00001800,19402.000,0.3492,
0.00001801,87.829,0.0016,
0.00001822,1239.659,0.0226,
0.00001828,126.073,0.0023,
0.00001848,80.005,0.0015,
0.00001851,87.829,0.0016,
0.00001888,3667.000,0.0692,
0.00001900,5832.369,0.1108,
0.00001904,646.000,0.0123,
0.00001908,55.006,0.0010,
0.00001921,163.551,0.0031,
0.00001929,1250.000,0.0241,
0.00001940,6741.932,0.1308,
0.00001944,1000.000,0.0194,
0.00001950,625.000,0.0122,
0.00001981,1991.640,0.0395,
0.00001997,297.742,0.0059,
0.00001999,272.509,0.0054,
0.00002000,3576.500,0.0715,
0.00002022,28.750,0.0006,
0.00002040,112.971,0.0023,
0.00002048,193.458,0.0040,
0.00002049,24.456,0.0005,
0.00002070,800.000,0.0166,
0.00002100,51.000,0.0011,
0.00002101,119.000,0.0025,
0.00002106,28.489,0.0006,
0.00002119,90.067,0.0019,
0.00002144,1377.000,0.0295,
0.00002171,1600.000,0.0347,
0.00002174,5909.012,0.1285,
0.00002182,1818.000,0.0397,
0.00002200,7578.807,0.1667,
0.00002222,2651.053,0.0589,
0.00002228,448.833,0.0100,
0.00002230,1500.000,0.0335,
0.00002242,1500.000,0.0336,
0.00002260,1327.434,0.0300,
0.00002264,4939.053,0.1118,
0.00002276,161.261,0.0037,
0.00002285,1000.913,0.0229,
0.00002300,1500.000,0.0345,
0.00002301,178.717,0.0041,
0.00002325,865.687,0.0201,
0.00002328,1000.000,0.0233,
0.00002360,1500.000,0.0354,
0.00002384,385.727,0.0092,
0.00002387,1256.808,0.0300,
0.00002400,2300.000,0.0552,
0.00002419,1500.000,0.0363,
0.00002428,184.078,0.0045,
0.00002444,1720.025,0.0420,
0.00002461,276.661,0.0068,
0.00002469,1235.954,0.0305,
0.00002472,50.000,0.0012,
0.00002479,4675.603,0.1159,
0.00002485,1303.419,0.0324,
0.00002486,1935.000,0.0481,
0.00002499,10111.209,0.2527,
0.00002500,39546.471,0.9887,
0.00002532,991.803,0.0251,
0.00002540,90.733,0.0023,
0.00002555,189.601,0.0048,
0.00002562,2433.201,0.0623,
0.00002589,1000.000,0.0259,
0.00002600,12554.767,0.3264,
0.00002613,22.963,0.0006,
0.00002616,500.000,0.0131,
0.00002640,2437.807,0.0644,
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0.00002699,1000.000,0.0270,
0.00002700,22517.959,0.6080,
0.00002719,1451.250,0.0395,
0.00002772,7000.000,0.1940,
0.00002794,1005.860,0.0281,
0.00002800,2000.000,0.0560,
0.00002809,201.147,0.0057,
0.00002828,635.420,0.0180,
0.00002834,81.320,0.0023,
0.00002839,1390.500,0.0395,
0.00002845,200.000,0.0057,
0.00002874,1000.000,0.0287,
0.00002900,2088.057,0.0606,
0.00002936,207.182,0.0061,
0.00002937,50.000,0.0015,
0.00002939,20.699,0.0006,
0.00002953,1000.000,0.0295,
0.00003000,4568.000,0.1370,
0.00003013,1915.000,0.0577,
0.00003020,1000.000,0.0302,
0.00003063,213.397,0.0065,
0.00003094,1058.474,0.0327,
0.00003100,419.000,0.0130,
0.00003119,2744.188,0.0856,
0.00003143,45.003,0.0014,
0.00003162,72.885,0.0023,
0.00003180,900.000,0.0286,
0.00003190,219.800,0.0070,
0.00003206,50.000,0.0016,
0.00003209,1400.000,0.0449,
0.00003257,921.093,0.0300,
0.00003268,632.250,0.0207,
0.00003270,4000.000,0.1308,
0.00003299,477.784,0.0158,
0.00003300,2000.000,0.0660,
0.00003317,226.393,0.0075,
0.00003342,1000.000,0.0334,
0.00003386,3372.000,0.1142,
0.00003400,100.000,0.0034,
0.00003444,733.185,0.0253,
0.00003448,839.685,0.0290,
0.00003450,5000.000,0.1725,
0.00003471,100.000,0.0035,
0.00003498,500.000,0.0175,
0.00003500,65000.000,2.2750,
0.00003509,1000.000,0.0351,
0.00003522,8970.433,0.3159,
0.00003529,65.305,0.0023,
0.00003571,240.181,0.0086,
0.00003600,833.333,0.0300,
0.00003641,5735.500,0.2088,
0.00003661,19337.345,0.7079,
0.00003688,100000.000,3.6880,
0.00003693,1000.000,0.0369,
0.00003698,247.386,0.0091,
0.00003700,6893.856,0.2551,
0.00003750,8395.000,0.3148,
0.00003767,1004.352,0.0378,
0.00003769,2500.000,0.0942,
0.00003770,31406.868,1.1840,
0.00003778,3912.000,0.1478,
0.00003813,2000.000,0.0763,
0.00003817,27.503,0.0010,
0.00003825,254.808,0.0097,
0.00003845,1000.000,0.0384,
0.00003850,1476.667,0.0569,
0.00003853,7463.000,0.2875,
0.00003868,200.000,0.0077,
0.00003889,1982.465,0.0771,
0.00003898,8173.850,0.3186,
0.00003900,43.788,0.0017,
0.00003920,2497.000,0.0979,
0.00003924,2058.141,0.0808,
0.00003938,58.522,0.0023,
0.00003939,1876.000,0.0739,
0.00003952,262.452,0.0104,
0.00003972,150.000,0.0060,
0.00003977,11500.000,0.4574,
0.00003999,1582.285,0.0633,
0.00004000,9553.980,0.3822,
0.00004079,270.326,0.0110,
0.00004146,1000.000,0.0415,
0.00004160,319.000,0.0133,
0.00004175,1620.000,0.0676,
0.00004188,60.000,0.0025,
0.00004205,278.436,0.0117,
0.00004242,84.000,0.0036,
0.00004263,2000.000,0.0853,
0.00004277,3000.000,0.1283,
0.00004278,10000.000,0.4278,
0.00004284,23.000,0.0010,
0.00004300,300.000,0.0129,
0.00004332,286.789,0.0124,
0.00004359,3550.198,0.1548,
0.00004369,800.000,0.0350,
0.00004394,52.706,0.0023,
0.00004400,20884.600,0.9189,
0.00004440,655.221,0.0291,
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Have you looked at coingecko they have some feature for showing estimated real volume. For HitBTC I think they show 10% real volume or so.

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Pretty handy analysis on the coingecko exchange pages.

Hitbtc trust score 7
Reported-Normalized Volume Ratio: 0.189 (ie they seem to consider around 80% of trade volume to be fake)

Bittrex trust score 8
Reported-Normalized Volume Ratio: 1.0

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coinpaprika also have their own algorithm for determining reliability:

https://coinpaprika.com/exchanges/hitbtc/

https://coinpaprika.com/exchanges/bittrex/

Did we just hit ATL?

Not in terms of Euros.

I missed the sub €0.05 opertunity earlier this year… if we get that low again I will be taking a large amount of maidsafe off the market - maybe some of my newbies also.

With Fleming comming up this price is a steal.

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I have postponed buying a couple of things on Ebay just to put the ÂŁ into BTC then MAID

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