Since no-one really argued anything even remotely close to this, if you have to put so much invention in fabricating something so ridiculous and poorly worded only to make your “predictions” look relatively purposeful in comparison, it should finally tell you what your predictions amount to. Sorry.
EDIT: My point was to warn people against expecting too much too quickly, that is all. Launch is a huuuge thing for us. But we may find the rest of the world reacting in a more restrained, lukewarm fashion. When you are, say, an aspiring musician, the first struggle after mastering your skill and refining your art is to find a record deal. At least it used to be. And it could be so hard for so long you kinda tended to believe that once you get there, you are all there and everything comes easy from there. But that is mostly not how it works. You get a record deal, you do the record, the label gets it out, and — no-one cares. You know. When the Beatles recorded their debut, no-one in their company, not even their producer who thought they were pretty hopeless to begin with thought these four schmucks were gonna be some of the most important people in the world just a couple of months from there. When DGC signed Nirvana, they had no idea the band was gonna rewrite a history and kids were gonna sport their shirts thirty years later.
Oh, so pointing out that in case “the whole world will not immediately hop on just because this small community is ecstatic, feeling like a center of the whole universe for years, the price of SC will plummet”
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“thinking that these devs worked for 15 years to have a network that 100 people use and that monetary mechanism that drives it can’t reach $1”
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Yeah, have fun with denial. Never mind reality.
Ahh, screw it. Let me kill some more “FUN”. Nah, not even the best case scenario guarantees a price nigh 600 bucks. A tenth of that, if we are monumentally lucky.
There you have it. No fun. Or change of priorities.
Whose being greedy? I said above that the completion of the project and a network is more important than the outcome of the monetary upside but the two should work together if it were to succeed. I do see we have hit the end of the road though as you have now gone to name calling. Try to stay on the bright side of life.
For a guy who just used a whole lot of non-fitting hyperbole, you sound really, really annoyed and desperate for accuracy and logical/ideological justice now.
And oh, I asked the mods to edit it, because I assumed if I did remove that terrible, terrible name I called you, you would complain even more.
No, this is not a good convo. We are not on the same wavelength.
EDIT: Mistyping Waveman as Waverman is not exactly an edit-worthy flame/insult, is it, @dimitar? Like, one thing is removing profanities such as “greedy toad”, but this is a bit overzealous. Just saying.
Last I checked the world’s problems with Facebook, Google, governments etc. that Safe will fix still exist with no stopping or solutions in sight. The only points worth arguing is if someone else somehow magically creates something similarly Good Enough, which I don’t really see happening, unless someone wants to enlighten me. (All projects I’ve had a glimpse at over the years don’t solve nearly as many problems as I’d like. But maybe some new project[s] have recently sprung up.) Not letting people have their optimism (while realizing that it’s just that and still acknowledging realities) is actually damaging to a project like this that DOES rely on immense pioneering and potential risk. If other projects want to try to eventually mimic that at some point soon, good on them; hopefully they have more success than Maidsafe at creating a true People’s Internet. If that doesn’t happen, then the price is going very high upon success, simple as that.
“My point was to warn people against expecting too much too quickly, that is all.” It’s been 15 years by the time that (ideally!) next year sees consistent test networks. I’ve personally said that would be the case last [edit: THIS] year, but PARSEC was naughty. If everyone had true foresight, we’d all be rich. Just a little longer, in my book. Maybe one of the new components will have issues for some reason like PARSEC did. Hopefully it’d be much quicker to replace.
Maybe best to forget about $600 for now. It’s not anywhere close rn and if we get there we’ll all be pleasantly surprised. I think most of the comments are just supporting the case that the Safe Network has such broad use cases that they individually see that value being realistic, at some point in time.
I’m pretty happy to see .15c again after we saw .05c during the corona crash/polo delisting. That’s 3x and the previous ATH is something that is obviously realistic and achievable. Also something we’d likely all be happy with.
We can spend our time more positively and productively than infighting about price speculation.
I’m done firing off at the other guy who has his own thoughts on this but I will say regardless of what number was being tossed about it’s a shame that someone shoot down anyone’s imaginations (backed by math) because at the end of the day we aren’t actually arguing over a price, we are debating VALUE which a network with the potential of safe has plenty of. Everyone have a great weekend.
Right, but it is not as if the world population has been losing sleep over Facebook creating a social bubble or selling their data for profit. Most people care about likes, followers and other people sharing their content.
So it is not like we just launch and people suddenly realize they have been using the wrong web and should start using something else right away. It is gonna take time. A lot of it. But I will not keep repeating it anymore. Most people got it by now.
EDIT: Yes, there is an ever-growing tendency towards censorship that has been taking over. So we will probably attract a lot of people who encountered some sort of censorship (unless they encountered it on here, those who did will go for the immediate fork ).
A week ago or so I sold a quite tiny stash at 16.2 cents (where it has now gone back to)… and then I ended up not needing it. In fact I should’ve bought back in already .
Regarding the FB/Google etc., maybe instead of the usual huge news story spread across mainstream that detracts from good things in the world, journalism needs to push in the other direction to show how harmful giving up your privacy is, and how Safe Network is your solution (rather than one false paradigm after another being solutions). Not to mention the deceitful UI/UX design usually built into centralized conglomerate systems like that vs. genuinely good designs, though I can’t think of any examples right now; just generally.
I agree that the typical FB user/Googler will take time to migrate to the Safe Network and people dont typically care enough about their privacy to do anything about it. They just want something that is easy and just works. It will also take a long time to get new content on here for general consumption, except for those content producers booted off of traditional Silicon Valley controlled sites. When I look at this system I ask, what markets (legitimate or otherwise) will this open up? The first realization that comes up is there are a lot of technically oriented people into torrents and usenet out there, many of them with a lot of hardware to store their personal treasure trove. Usenet people already pay to download, I could see paying to upload not that unreasonable, especially if their space can be used for earning and you only upload something once, never to be taken down. For better or for worse, this will likely be the first major group of adopters. From there, and I could be wrong, my hunch is that these folks will spread the word to everyone they know outside the techiverse. The rate of adoption by this group of potential users hinges upon speed, reliability, and easy to use apps. With the network up and running, my guess is the time period to massive adoption will be measured in months not years. But who knows, that’s my theory anyway, we’ll know once this thing goes live
If it follows that trajectory the remaining 900K coins will last about 8 more days.
This is really strange considering hitbtc on coinmarketcap counts for 98% of trade volume, bittrex the other 2%.
Bittrex cold storage wallet has about 25,000,000 maidsafecoin so it’ll be very interesting to see what happens over the next week or two with both these wallets and exchange volume.
I wish it was like you outlined, but if we look at how long it takes for groundbreaking or at least semi-groundbreaking services that are destined to last or make the mark or pave the way for the rest – to gain traction and finally see the cloud nine growth we probably speak of, it is never just months. Strange enough, it is almost always two years at least.
It took Chrome, however superior it used to be among browsers, especially in comparison with that terrible thing called Internet Explorer, almost two years to gain 10% share of the browser market. And hey, it had freaking Google behind it!
Now you may say, we are more than just a single service. We are all of that at once.
Herein lies the catch though. These totally groundbreaking technologies actually take even longer to take off because nobody knows what these are and it takes time to wrap yer brain around them. Think Bitcoin. I mean, Ethereum had it relatively easy thanks to the heavy lifting Btc had to do at the start. Or better, think internet:
Of course, info now travels faster than ever before… We are online almost all the time now, so this may speed things up a bit. But it may also distract people from learning new stuff and adopting it.
I have also encountered several snags trying to buy MAID with Ltc lately, namely through Coinswitch, which basically mediates the exchange between you and hitbtc mostly.
Hmmm… taking my favorite SAFEtoy in the pipe line, SAFEGit.
Git itself isn’t a groundbreaking technology anymore.
Git hub has 40 million users.
There are 60 million bitcoin addresses at the moment.
A customer moving over to SAFEGit may not care at all about the underlying technology, they just want free storage forever.
We wont be providing ground breaking services - just more reliable and secure versions of the services that are taking advantage of the public.
With applications targeting,
Developers.
Content Creators.
Social networkers.
Gamers
… the torrent people…
We won’t be appealing to the crypto side of the tech, they’ll just want a great reliable service - and will be introduced to the SAFEToken through use of the services.
Each of these areas have at least a 40 million pool of people and well be attracting them.
… and finally the core crypto crowed, once they see the utility driving the coin price they’ll be on board quicker than you can say FOMO… and it’s these guys that will care most about the underlying ground breaking technology.
We might follow the same growth pattern in each of these areas, but the total amount of user growth will be larger.
It’s going to be interesting to watch how the growth unfolds.
I don’t think it will take long to match the number of bitcoin addresses on the SAFEnet.
People still think there is an infinite amount of cheap maidsafe at under $1.00.
It’s going to be interesting when the last few cheap coins circle the drain.
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