MaidSafeCoin (MAID & eMAID) - Price & Trading topic (Part 2)

At crowdsale i thought a $1 sale price would be nice.

10 years later and crypto has grown up.

I easily see hundred dollar coins now.

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That is true. Also as with any high risk/reward investment, until you cash out that investment it is similar to Schrödingers cat. :slightly_smiling_face: Even if we all know that the cat is alive because we can hear it meowing.

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Maybe the information here could be updated (plus similarly for CoinGecko?):

(Also, it looks like URL for eMAID just has a hyphen after “maidsafecoin”.)

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Good to see the price rise, better to see the volume rise and then get a less volatile price.

Its all pretty volatile of course but with betyer volume we have more accurate idea of the real value

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And finally, the ever-unending question: Anyone having success with HitBTC recently?
I still hold those memories of occasional bad stories with them, but maybe it can still work?

Looks like nothing about HBTC is working for me. Also, every ‘quick exchange’ listing on the Internet has seemingly removed both MAIDs.

Hey someone could always set up a P2P escrow trading system, because like, how is the world supposed to trade this stuff? Wait til someone builds an exchange on Autonomi itself? Lol.




Edit/Addendum post: I wonder if that’s actually an interesting idea: Holders of MAID somehow can eventually transfer their MAID onto Autonomi’s own DEX, and exchange them for whatever AN’s token name is going to be. Which, of course would ignore or bypass the fact that Maidsafe will be doing the official 1:1 MAID:Officialtoken exchange, unless said DEX method is by some truly peculiar stretch of imagination yet another official way to do the exchange.

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Cup & handle :wink:

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You can try changelly.com instead. It is somehow connected to HitBTC and there is no KYC for low volume.

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Source: Coingecko

Not far from the top in the storage category, our actually fully diluted marketcap is $440,831,304 USD at the moment. Position (#191 on Coingecko) should already be above Siacoin. :heart_eyes:

If we reach $1 Billion, which is at the token price of $2.21, we will be back in the Top 100! :revolving_hearts:


Useful price chart using fully diluted marketcap according to the 452 Million tokens.

Based on the Coingecko chart if we are in the Top 5 Storage projects we should be above $1,1Billion to $5.6 Billion which according to the fully diluted marketcap would be a token price range of $2.2 ~ $12.5. Hopefully that removes some speculation and give more concrete numbers which are still a great way up from where we are now :muscle: :notes:

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Agreed! The $40 sounds fanciful, but who knows what real success and adoption could look like?

The quoted figures look perfectly reasonable to me though. The last peaks were largely driven by bitcoin/crypto market swings as a whole, with not much specific progress on safe network (towards an operational network).

This time we actually have a beta launched and a planned release date. These are absolute game changers. The natural market swing may add to that, but this feels like the real deal now and the old ATH may soon be a distant (and much smaller!) memory.

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I believe plans are afoot to automatically/easily transfer MAID to native tokens at launch time. Then we would just trade the native tokens, which should be easy for an exchange to integrate.

Either that or multi sig and smart contracts of sorts could do similar. That’s a much bigger topic though!

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If things go smoothly, where could you envisage the price of autonomi is in 3 years time?

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In the heights of The 112 Club 



Privacy. Security. Freedom

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That’s a tough question. There are so many different ways Autonomi could be adopted. Some areas:

  • Immutable and verifiable data store for smart contracts / oracles (on blockchains) for web3 in general.
  • General bulk data storage to remove centralised (expensive) storage solutions with vendor lock in (i.e. massive improvement on other web3 / storage solutions).
  • Censorship resistant data storage / retrieval, including public access
  • Cryptographic / real identity management platform
  • Fast and private financial peer to peer transactions

This doesn’t even scratch the surface of what full adoption could look like, e.g.

  • Birth of a new web, which gradually replaces the old one. New Autonomi browsers for blogs, forums, websites, etc.
  • Becomes the standard data backbone for online applications, avoiding having to use cloud services as a ‘middle man’.
  • All users directly talk to one another via the network, also avoiding cloud services.
  • Messaging apps migrate to using Autonomi behind the scenes.
  • Social media sites, blogging platforms, news sites, etc, all migrate to Autonomi and people own their data for comments, feeds, etc, dictating their own privacy.

I’m sure there are loads more, but this is world changing stuff. Clearly, some of this stuff will take years and only if full adoption occurs. At this point, putting a price on the token becomes an adventure into fantasy - $100? $1000? More? I have no idea, but it would be a big number.

Without full adoption 10s of dollars seems entirely achievable though. It’s only a 10x away, which already happened (to now) from the low just 6 months ago.

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I’m going to make some new predicitions, seeing that the last one worked out so well. I think we’re getting ready for the new wick up. Profit taking is slowing down rapidly, market maker absorbed lots of it and community is rapidly expanding (20% increase in discord members in less than a week).

It’s time for price discovery to the upside before end of month.

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What should be real or minimum value of 1TB permanently stored on network if 1 node need 1W ?
I count with spare resources only, but still each node increase the consumption of electricity a bit.

Price of 136MWh = 13 600€ ?
Token price should increase a lot :laughing:

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I just look at what it would cost to buy my bag now.

I shouldnt really sell before realising / gaining that price.

And thats a starting price point.

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I’d say it depends how much that 1TB data file is accessed.

If it just sits idle and no one has a use for it, it would surely need very little energy.

If it is a popular video (of a cat, probably), then it would cost lots more energy. However, it would also be enjoyed by many, many more, which makes that price worth it.

We also have to consider caching throughout the network and on the client itself. Immutable data is incredibly cacheable after all.

My prediction is to look at where the eMAID price lands after the buy the news sell the release cycle has finished. There was fomo boon leading upto the beta program starting.

If the price drop back to 80% of the rise (1.05 - 0.50 = 56 cents rise ===> approx 61 cents (50 cents + 11 cents)) then I would expect a huge rise leading upto launch and a 80% of the rise drop again after launch, then rising from there longer term.

Just a prediction and perhaps a sanity check. Being a utility network I doubt personally we’ll see crypto rises except for the launch madness and fomo

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If it takes only 0,01W and you go to 1%. Anyway the network does not know when you pay if is popular kitty file or just backup of backup.

If using spare resources then data not accessed costs nothing extra in electricity to keep. And if it is accessed then I doubt you could measure a chunk being read over the power your device is using anyhow.

If you use a special device then its on you how much it costs and not on the uploader. People using spare resources have a major advantage over those investing in specialised hardware.

That is not to say that special hardware is not profitable but is not as profitable as using spare resources you are using anyhow. In any case it is not on the uploader if you do use special h/w

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