Speaking of prices, do you think that if all goes well, we will get to see a maid in the 10$ in the next bull run??
Or, on the contrary, is it a very high number for a maid?
But you have no proof, nothing of value because you have no numbers, therfore unprofessional approach.
Twitter has 330 million âactiveâ users, Mastodon has 1.8 âactiveâ and declining.
Maidsafe have 45k followers on Twitter, 0 on Mastodon.
You have no numbers for Mastodon and canât provide any proof or evidence that Maidsafe would have more reach on Mastodon. It is only your personal observations and that is not professional or good enough.
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Go to alt.co and raise a ticket if you are still stuck/dubious.
I found them to be very responsive and friendly - def dealing with humans, not bots from my experience.
No harm in dreaming as long as you donât indulge in it for >1min/hr ![]()
For one minute in every hour a Lambourghini Espada is parked outside my house. Cant put it in the drive cos its full of high end motorhome towing my personal gyrocopter.
I think we are off topic once again but, why argue about Twitter vs Mastodon?
Effective marketing would use all available platforms to reach as wide an audience as possible.
Discarding Twitter would be silly, not using Mastodon equally so, that said I think Maidsafe should pay the $8 a month for extra visibility, longer posts, higher quality video and more professional appearance that comes with it, my opinion of course ![]()
The SNP have a nice motor home looking for a buyer ![]()
Incorrect again, as are your outdated figures for Mastodon. I donât need to have collected numbers to know that multiple comparisons have shown that I get lots of engagement on Mastodon, even with only a few hundred followers, and zero for the same post on Twitter where I have ten times as many.
In addition my Mastodon followers have more than doubled in a couple of months while my Twitter followers have been stable at around 2,000 for years now.
Add to that, that my conclusions are supported by plenty of others who have done the same experiments. Also, nobody has reported anything contradictory to this.
That is evidence.
On the other hand you have no evidence that an account like MaidSafeâs on Twitter will get more engagement than the Safe Network account on Mastodon do you?
For some reason you cling to an opinion for which you have no evidence, in the face of actual evidence to the contrary. ![]()
No chance - it would need a VERY deep clean - PeterFitzpatrick and PatrickFitzpeterâs Nonce-mobile
It would depend on how itâs done. It definitely can be discarded, and is being discarded by many. There are non-silly ways to discard it, and non-silly reasons to do so.
I wouldnât be in favour of totally discarding it though, all advertising being good advertising and all that. If only 10s or 100s of the thousands of Twitter followers see the message, itâs worth a few updates. No one is arguing for it be fully discarded though (so far, anyway).
A good option to my mind would be announcing that Mastodon (or somewhere else more in line with Safeâs values) is the first class citizen, and Twitter is being kept up-to-date during a transitional phase as better pastures are farmed. As soon as Safe has good traction on a less crappy platform than Twitter, it can fall to the wayside when the time is right.
Anyway. There is ample evidence to suggest @JimCollinson will not be overly swayed by dogmatic appeals to normalcy here from forum participants repeating the accepted wisdom of five years ago as if they invented sliced bread ![]()
Edit: just re-reading @Josh and thought I should clarify on the offchance - I am referring to @tobbetjâs comments and not yours! Your comment was reasonable and I basically agree - framing as âTwitter vs Mastodonâ is a silly approach to the problem. Forking over the 8 dollars in a transitional phase would be perfectly reasonable too. Collecting evidence, being open to doing things differently, and not being dogmatic - as @happybeing is doing - is the way.
He does that a lot, but then heâs not alone there ![]()
Off-topic, moi? ![]()
I think itâs a useful argument because there seems to be a perception that Twitter is still effective and not only that, but more effective than Mastodon for sharing information about SN.
I can understand why people may have that view, and think itâs important to point out that it is not supported by evidence and contrary to the reported experience of users of both platforms.
Yes, we can use both. Iâm not advocating anything else, although I do wonder if resources put into Twitter may be wasted.
Iâm also not going to sit back when someone describes me as unprofessional or says that I donât have evidence for my views when I do.
Prickly!

It is unarguable that Twitter is declining, Mastodon is improving its reach and is proportionately a lot more valuable than Twitter. Dare I say âhigher qualityâ users than Twitter?
I dont have numbers but I would guess Mastodon users are <2-3% of Twitter users. Please correct me if I am wildly wrong here.
Keep both platforms for now - and for the next year or two.
I recently joined Mastodon as you know, yet to give it a proper go, I will.
I do see people on Twitter moan and throw their toys⌠âI am moving to x,y or z Twitter sucksâ only to see them back shortly after.
If Twitterâs time has come and something new is going to take over as is normal we are still early in the transitional phase though. Idk
, many people do still use it so I find it hard to say I am done with it, but I will say that I am finding it less interesting than before.
Its like Facebook, many say they are leaving - Ive done it at least twice - but you always get dragged back.
In my case Canadian family just kept on using it and I was missing pics of adorable nieces and nephews.
I have finally closed that chapter in my life.
Does it count as closed if I do still have an account but never use it?
every 6 months or so I pop in to remind myself that I have zero interest.
No, sorry.
Twitterâs usefulness depends on your use case. When you could turn the algo off I found it very useful even though my own posts were not seen, despite having a decent number of followers.
I could still get engagement, but only in replies to others which is very limiting.
The problem on Mastodon was that until last Decemberâs migration, I couldnât get much useful info outside of the decentralised, FOSS and related tech sphere.
For me, Muskâs greatest contribution to the internet so far was to change that and I can now follow a decent number of accounts on Mastodon across a much wider spectrum. It takes longer to find these because you arenât spoon fed them and canât search for them, though there are some recent attempts to address that. To me, thatâs ok because itâs more organic, and I find people more gradually through the people Iâve chosen to follow, rather than through an algo that I donât have control over.
For sharing content and for engagement there is no contest. Twitter is useless for that and Mastodon works really well.
I wonder the same thing, makes no frickin sense. But some people seems to have personal political agenda that needs to be pushed no matter the results for the success of Safe.
Without numbers you have no evidence, if you have evidence then show me. As Mastodon donât give analytics data, someone wrote, then it becomes useless in also other ways. Without analytics data you donât know where you are, where you are going or at which speed you are getting there. To know where you are going you need numbers on how many sees posts, growth rate and such.
If you have evidence then show numbers on how many sees a post from Maidsafe on Mastodon vs twitter. You canât complain on calling it unprofessional when you donât show numbers, professionals would show numbers and argue with numbers instead of semi subjective\objective observations.
As I have a bachelor in business and administration that means that I know all important areas about marketing, I know what to look for to evaluate if a approach is good or bad. Getting numbers on how many sees a post, how many are returning, growth rate and similar is key to marketing. Donât care if you push for Mastodon as long as Twitter is being pushed. If you can show evidence with numbers that Maidsafe gets more attention on Mastodon then you have your evidence but not before that. Right now the only numbers available are 300 million Twitter users, 45k followers vs Mastodon few million users and 0 Zero Maidsafe followers.

