Yeah it seems my MetaMAsk got b0rked.
All good after reinstalling the extension in Brave.
Sorry to trouble you all…
Yeah it seems my MetaMAsk got b0rked.
All good after reinstalling the extension in Brave.
Sorry to trouble you all…
Not sure where to ask this. So though I’d ask here.
Is there going to be a way to launch an ecommerce site on Autonomi?
I’ve read posts about data types etc.. But I don’t understand all that shizzle.. Is building an eshop going to be possible?
It will be a challenge to run an ecommerce site that dispenses anything of value to be able to run entirely on the client’s system (easily hackable).
I’m not saying it’s impossible, ask again when phase-1 is done and we see what capabilities we can use to build with.
From this thread, I got an impression that it should not be that difficult, and I’m a bit surprised that there’s no clear webshop project in IF.
Unfortunately, you have bad actors that can use that access to manipulate the order and inventory data, so, no, at the moment you need a validator running somewhere.
What I understand as possible today is a shop endpoint that either pre-validates the information the client sent (the whole frontend can be served up by Autonomi), or an order confirmation process that verifies the order wasn’t tampered with. Either of those require a trusted compute process, which Autonomi nodes do not provide.
This can be a microwebsite running ON your node computer, directly or in a container, but then people will know your IP address.
You can simply publish you prices and what you offer
People can place orders (like it works with ordering via paper and classic mail from catalogue)
And the seller validates and processes incoming orders +sends out confirmations/correctes offers/declines
There’s absolutely no need for ‘server side’ computing… Your server side needs to validate/check back with databases already anyway… There’s not much difference between your server side computing and a seller client app processing incoming orders… A client side Web shop software and a client side seller publishing and order processing software… It’s not one monolithic blob but 2 parts that together act as ‘one shop’
Well, I was going to say it depends on a project like Friends, because we need some way for the user to notify the shop owner about the order.
=) I feel honored but I don’t think friends is needed - shops can publish a graphEntry root key from which orders can be placed on all graphEntries with keys derived from the root key (like hardware wallets do)
So the shop crawls the expected oder spots and gets the orders this way
I can be clearer by saying the process like those that Friends uses, but does this yet work on the Mainnet? lol
Absolutely
Absolutely not - friends uses the network just to exchange peer connection info
… If nobody else doesn’t do it faster I might do a simple shop just for fun when friends works somewhat smoothly…
Wouldn’t that be possible with anttpd or dweb or a browser extension ? That they would catch a payto:blabla?transaction=0xB1A the same way a web browser catches a mailto:blabla@bla.bla ?
Maybe worth reading this thread (and anyone else interested!) Databases and Web Apps (server-side logic)
We need established design patterns and frameworks for this stuff to make it easy. I’m confident they will come with investment and time.
For actual card payments, some fintech integration would be needed though, unless tokens are used ofc. Native, preferably!
Why can they?
The customer can view the catalogue data put up by the shop
They order and then submit order (payment and receipt of it is attached to order)
Shop receives order, validates order & payment and if good processes order
If the shop’s system is on-line 24/7 then when order is received it can do an update on stock levels on Autonomi. Most non-trival shops do not expose their backends and stock levels are kept by web server and one by the real shope software
At no time does the user app get to change any inventory or invalid order change anything
I’ll just wait to set how these features work before i try to build a store.
It might use the signaling library utilised by friends too for not having constant writes
Not very many people then. Given that some likely use several addresses to gain more influence, it’s not an overwhelming number.
It’s not, we really need these apps to work so that the network can be explained with something to show.
Working apps will help grow the community.
and where would be the point in using multiple addresses for anybody <~10k votes (~half the votes in top12)
so for 51 out of 58 voting addresses there wouldn’t be a point in splitting up …
still not a huge number I know but you don’t need to make the numbers look smaller than they are