That isn’t/wasn’t the intention, it was more about gauging how we cater for the UX and kinds of setups we’d be seeing.
Thanks for feeding back tho!
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I’m wondering if I should put my old AMD Athlon desktop back into service too! 
I have a similar generation L520 Thinkpad hosting nodes too. It only manages about 20 before the system load starts creeping up a little high though!
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Use what you have before buying anything new, the Thinkpad should be able to run “headless” and your Athlon too.
Sure it will cost a bit more in electricity even with running headless but what will a few RPi4s cost? Aaand their powersupplies
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Run what you brung!
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This is perfect! I doubt most of my people’s routers can last more than 10 nodes before their internet becomes unusable.
In theory this is the perfect option, in practice my short research among people willing to run nodes in Sofia is that there are the following problems:
- their desktop computers are old and noisy and they turn them off at night because they don’t have a separate room to keep them plugged in (although 90.8% of the population in Bulgaria has their own home, most homes are small apartments 2 or 3 rooms)
- their laptops are old (over 10 years) if they have them at all - they actually change their smartphones more often, and laptops are rarely used only for office suite or some movie
- they don’t pay for home internet, they share the internet from their mobile device and when they go out, the internet goes out with them
Two or three people who have modern computers and will run the nodes themselves are the IT people (they have expressed such a desire, I have small doubts, however, because according to my observations, BG ITs are well paid and I suspect that they will give up at the first problems due to laziness 
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Privacy. Security. Freedom
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…and here a riddim has wired connections from router to pc (2 meters) because the wifi connection is not good enough sometimes xD … (and i still can’t understand why this would be the case on a 2m distance …)
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Maybe a riddim biofield is too strong and when it is at the computer it break the connection?
Privacy. Security. Freedom
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There is a case for being too close.
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I’ve had a couple of long chats with someone who worked on RF and microwave kit in the 70s and 80s and he says no one should be surprised when their WiFi has problems. They should be surprised when it works at all!
Reflections are as bad a problem as too much matter in the way or too great a distance. Any big bits of metal nearby? You could try a different angle for the antennas.
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I even tried the super large external antenna in different angles before giving up and ordering powerline adapters (just 2 meters through air/wall/door but getting LAN cables running there would involve a lot of work & many metres of cable) or I’d have a cable hanging around that annoyes me all the time…) … The trick is that everything works excellent… Just when I connect to the company vpn speed between my company and me drops to 500kbit (even the downlink is super slow … Which should be 100x that speed…) All the rest of the Internet is connected at regular speed… Never seen something like this…
… I suspect it has something to do with packet sizes or the protocol of the vpn… But since power LAN just works I didn’t dig any deeper 
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I studied RF communication partly at university and then worked almost 10 years for ISPs, mostly dealing with WiFi and other RF links. I can say it is completely true. Wherever you can, put cable/fiber even if it means more work/money, you will be glad in the long run.
Powerline adapters are somewhere half way, more predictable than wifi, but it only takes one bad power plug or electric appliance to disrupt it. Sometimes very hard to find when it happens only occasionally.
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Yapp - exactly my opinion on them… But not gonna wire up everything in a rented flat… If I could afford a Place of my own each room would get wired up with connectors from the wall…
Ps: node and database for node monitoring are plugged directly into the router 
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@JimCollinson When I filled the form to get into first wave, I’m not sure if I used my proper Discord user name, or maybe the display name on Autonomi server. What if I used the display name?
I’m in the same boat. Not sure if I used my display name or username!
All good folks. We know who you are from the form… human eyeballs on that one.
Main thing is when the actual rewards comp starts, to put your username in the launchpad, so we can attribute your earnings, and the discord bot can pick things up and report back to you.
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For how long are the 3 beta test rounds expected to be, 1 month each? Will the network restart after the Beta period? Trying to figure if I for example should go for a faster internet connection during the Beta test network but don’t know if I can sustain those costs long term. So might have to go back to a lower step after the Beta network. If the network is not meant to go on after the Beta period than it is not a problem.
The beta rounds will last till launch most likely since its beta testing with some flare. The plan is the last beta network will continue into live network, at which point test tokens disappear and genesis happens supplying live tokens and the conversion process happens for (e)MAID to tokens
The plan/hope is that the last beta network is not reset and data remains when going live. Tokens though will disappear and the live tokens will be generated in Genesis according to the White paper (ie approx 30% generated)
There is no benefit getting a faster internet during beta other than 1) experience 2) maybe greater beta program rewards given after launch 3) chance to upload virtually free data since it’ll remain.
The beta network will always have the chance it has to be restarted (data loss) at any stage during the beta program. It is not certain the last beta will survive into live but the plan is for that to be the case. And its hoped the last beta will be long lived.
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That makes sense, then I only going to go for a internet connection speed I can sustain for a longer period of time. And won’t be able to compete with some of the wizards running +2000 nodes anyway.
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Don’t let these numbers be discouraging.
As yet only 2 people other than Maidsafe have ventured into this territory and it has been done via the cloud not home nodes.
Adding cloud nodes will be very helpful in getting the network on it’s feet in the early days so a worthy endeavor but it is far from what should be the target aspirations or considered a yard stick to measure success.
There are significant costs involved in running cloud nodes, recurring costs, and it is debatable if those costs will ever be recovered.
Afterall a goal of the network is to be cheaper than the incumbents, so by paying existing centralized services to host the data how do you do it for less?
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I think that many people will be in a situation where the router is the limiting factor before the connection speed.
One thing I expect from the Beta is finding out which routers are best match between ease of use and amount of Autonomi traffic it can handle.
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