Looking at the leaderboard from Wave 1 I see a lot of people who are without nanos and I wonder if they are just busy with something else and if they would join if there was someone to start nodes for them.
Obviously, if someone runs nodes for you, it will be for no profit and will only want you to covered for their internet and electricity costs.
node-launchpad 0.39 is still WIP, reporting of actual chunks does showup in the log directories of each node, however none of the data written noted in the log records is reflected in the node-launchpad console as nano rewards, so they must be secondary copies, lots of relay going on, lots of Quic generated errors related to not using DNS transport for multi-address sends…, I have documented this and copied @roland, hence the nano zero qty in my listing sparkling_panda in the leader board, and likely the case for other running WIN11 as well…,
There has been quite a bit of effort by @roland and team’s part with lots of documented feedback from myself to get this working over the last 8 days…
That said, its clear the dev team has much work to do to stabilize the MS WIN 11 node-launchpad 0.39 and related safenode versions so any of the nodes actually get nanos in their wallets.
Also I don’t have visibility into what the DAG is recording, if any thing.
The purpose of this forum topic is to offer help to people from the community who do not have the opportunity to act on their own, but would like to write their name in this monumental event of human history - the birth of the decentralized autonomous Internet.
Of course it’s hard to say why so many people don’t have nanos but I can write that since the beginning of Beta testing I asked a lot of questions and no one answered any of them except other users od forum, only Chris wrote back but since he was on vacation I didn’t want to bother him - I just wrote to him again a while ago asking for help.
My nodes are finally working but I still don’t have any nanos and I don’t know why this is happening, and Launchpad hasn’t worked since the beginning of testing. I think a lot of people don’t have the determination and time to try to figure out why something isn’t working or, like with me, have launched nodes but aren’t getting the rewards. I would look to MaidSafe for answers, there is simply a lack of information flow, and people’s patience is limited…
There’s no way Autonomi can answer all these issues but plenty of help from the community.
The early entrants have to expect we are Guinea pigs who will help smooth the way for each successive wave.
Autonomi set themselves a very ambitious target to launch in October, but we’d all love them to make it, so we are pulling together and taking the load off them where possible.
If you’ve learned things during your difficulties getting started, you can help those coming along next. It’s one of the most enjoyable things for me so I hope you’ll enjoy that too.
It is worrying not to have any nanos.
They are very slow at the moment. I think my 22 nodes have earned 20 in 4 days, and not all of the ones I’ve earned in the past have show up in the bot.
We’ll get there though. Posting a screenshot from vdash would help someone to help you check if your nodes look ok or not, so I suggest you try that next.
The are quite a few things not working quite right yet, which is what is keeping the Autonomi Devs busy, but this community is all about helping each other.
I fully agree with what you wrote but… e.g. if Launchpad didn’t work (and for many it probably still doesn’t) for Windows PCs, and there were probably many such users - then you should have started a Windows-only thread and concentrated all the messages for Win users there until the cause of the problems was determined, and I have the impression that the help was mainly for the pros - the technical people working on Linux, while the rest were taken care of with updates that did little and did not solve the problems.
I know that the team has a ton of work, and I am not criticizing anyone, but looking at my case when no one responded to any of my inquiries for 12 days, I think that people who are not involved in Safe abandoned the tests because they had no motivation to keep trying.
It works for a lot of people, are you sure you are running the latest version 0.3.9? This was sent to me today from a data center, it is behind quite a lot of firewalls and it works under Windows:
There are problems with windows for sure, I am running from the start one vm on windows server 2022 and there is no earnings, just bunch of errors, but simoultaneosly with that windows I am running two other vm’s on ubuntu 20.04 and there everything works smoothly, with earnings and 50% less errors, the same configurations on all the macihnes with the same network bandwith. I don’t have time for troubleshooting it but the errors at windows machines pile up and peers on windows machines are drastically different from nodes on linux. On windows machine i have nodes with less than 10 peers per node (but some nodes has over 1k peers) and on linux machine are evenly distributed among nodes cca 300 peers per node.
Mathly said - per one get I have 27 erros on windows machine.
I am also on Windows, I didn’t have any luck with nano’s up until Saturday. I was originally using the launchpad and upgraded to 0.37 but no success. I am now using safenode-manager where I was having the same issue, nodes were running but no nano’s. I realised I didn’t add the —home-network parameter and after I did this I started seeing records but still no nano’s. On Friday evening I turned off all firewall and virus protection, then on Saturday AM I got my first 10 nano’s. Now I have 30, I have been getting 10 per day since running between 6 and 11 nodes
Yes, I updated to the latest version 0.3.9 and at the moment the Launchpad window does not open at all (only flashes the window but does not start), and in the earlier version the window would start but you could not add nodes, and the resources indicated 0 GB / 0 MB.
I think the problem has been the same since the beginning, lack of space on the default C: drive and no instructions on how to change the path to another drive, hence updates do not do much.
I think @JimCollinson needs to join in here , he is looking for 1000+ testers fast (= reward incentive up front), some of us have day jobs which consume a lot of time who do like the project, where it’s going and are willing to help, I am one of them, I could care less about rewards, I care more about having a critical mass of bright minds to help the project along faster.
There are many skilled people out there who can help Autonomi , but who are also rewards motivated and, will do bug bounty work, if advertised as such and rewarded, especially up front to get started in.
WE the Autonomi community can tap into that VERY BIG body of rewards motivated ‘bug bounty’ talent, if we so chose,
it can be as simple as implementing ‘turn log reporting on’ at first install which sends logs to Maidsafe dev/QA team at some interval…, to get around the ‘free air drop’ non regulatory compliance angst.
Update: today I received 240 nano’s running 11 nodes! Occasionally I see the memory creep up high, so I stop all nodes and restart them which brings the memory back down
Doing beta testing on windows breaks our familys Eurocup fotboll casting. the tv-internet box had to be restarted 3 times tonite. 0 nanos earned from 3 win10/11 mashines. also got a mashine running at the office and that one has reported 70 nanos getting me up to 70 position on the leaderbord
but also the office network broke when I doubled the node count (based on CPU load around 40% before, the mashine crashed and was still restarting when I left the office)
Doing beta testing on windows breaks our familys Eurocup fotboll casting. the tv-internet box had to be restarted 3 times tonite. 0 nanos earned from 3 win10/11 mashines. also got a mashine running at the office and that one has reported 70 nanos getting me up to 70 position on the leaderbord
but also the office network broke when I doubled the node count (based on CPU load around 40% before, the mashine crashed and was still restarting when I left the office)
If you run more than the router can handle then yes its bad for your internet connection. Lag, packet losses, delays when retrying, other devices giving up. All due to router not able to handle so many simultaneous connections.
Solution is to run 1/2 the nodes or less
And when you run too many nodes then other nodes in the network are eventually shunning your nodes for not communicating properly
I’ll take you up on this, Dimitar. I managed to spin ten nodes up on my MacBook, immediately earned ten nanos and then saw zero activity for like two weeks. The nanos never even showed up on the leaderboard. What do you need from me?
I suggest we wait until Monday for the new version because there are many people in your situation and the problem most likely comes from the software and not from something you are doing wrong. If even then things don’t work, I’ll help you.