What’s up today? (Part 2)

Thank you for posting, I wouldn’t have seen this otherwise. La Fabrique is one of my favourite publishing houses, they do some excellent stuff, this is incredible news.

He’s a 28-year old, and was with his partner who also works for La Fabrique, and they were going to a book fair. He is still in custody, under anti-terrorism laws, in relation to his protesting activities and subsequent refusal to provide passwords to his phone and computer.

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Different country’s laws vary in respect to being able to remain silent without persecution/conviction. In Australia (and maybe UK since we follow them more) we do not have the ability to remain silent under many circumstances. As @happybeing mention we cannot remain silent when the passwords are lawfully demanded and our laws have a 10 year now max jail time for not giving over passwords under certain cases. Like in court, when (pre) arrested, at the entry/exit points to/from Australia, etc.

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A shame for countries with such laws. A medieval kind of justice.

It is a total attack on the right against self-incrimination and goes against the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

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More time to look into it now - he has been released actually, but his electronic devices have been kept by the British police until a later date.

There’s no charge, no accusation, no court, nothing, and they will be attempting to rip all of his personal data from his computer and phone, on the pretense of defending terrorism. He is a publisher.

Here’s the translation of the press release after his release, worth reading:

His lawyer has said that he was asked the following by British authorities:

  • Do you support president Macron?
  • Did you participate in the recent protests against Macron?
  • What books will La Fabrique be publishing soon?
  • What authors currently in La Fabrique’s catalogue are anti-government?
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Truecrypt used to have ability to open at least two different layers of encryption with same username, but different passwords.

Would be cool to have arbitrary depths of privacy with N passwords to your Safe.

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Reasonably sure this was discussed a while back - long while maybe 4-5 yrs ago
You could/would have multiple SAFE accounts/identities with various password strengths and depths depending on the purpose of each account.

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Uh oh … DBC’s for bitcoin in beta.

Calle is a Bitcoin and Lightning developer contributing to LNBits and the Cashu ecash system. In this interview, we discuss Cashu’s mission and development, undertake a live demonstration of it in action, the importance of privacy, removing ideology from Bitcoin, and the future of AI and robots.

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Oh no… Beaten to the punch?

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That’s my interpretation for sure. Not that Safe can’t compete here by doing the same as this app does for bitcoin and lots of other crypto’s.

They don’t specifically say DBC (maybe?) but reference older eCash tech and minting. Plus seeing it in action and explanation sounds like a DBC.

We go a wee bit further and in a different way. Basically

  • We don’t need a server to agree to a re-issue (no centralisation)
  • The transfer is all in the hand of the client, they sign it over to another Id (ecash has no notion of ID)

So basically these are 2 different approaches

ecash as in the video :
Pros

  • Almost immediate transfer (millisecond sig)
  • No history, increasing security (if server did not store history)
  • No identity to link into a transaction graph
  • Does not expose amounts (IIRC)
    Cons
  • Centralised and you have to trust the bank (server)
  • difficult to audit
  • Server will see all IP addresses (need to use a trusted vpn to get over that)

Safe DBC
Pros

  • Almost immediate transfer (due to highly parallelised mint)
  • The mint in Safe has no authority, clients have complete control
  • Client sends cash to another id
  • Does not expose amounts
  • Ids are spend once/receive once (privacy)
    Cons
  • Network nodes will see IPs (so perhaps folk need to use VPN for clients)
  • Ids are used, there may be ways that can expose some information much like actual cash
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Will safe DBC be easy to audit?

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You mean auditing the full supply?

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Easy in terms of follow the DAG all the way back to genesis. Yes that is relatively easy.

There will likely be different service providers on safe very soon.

  • Audit nodes
  • Archive nodes

Where these will try and receive as much data as possible. We don’t have an incentive mechanism there yet, but I am sure some folks will provide these just to help the network in general.

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  1. Bitcoin == a handful of uses - nodes for bitcoin transfer/audit
  2. Ethereum == a wheelbarrow of uses - nodes for #1 + for smart contracts
  3. Safe Network == a universe of uses - nodes for #1 & #2 + most anything else on the existing internet + things that can’t be done on the existing internet
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If there’s a later upgrade to allow distribution of the 70% not included in the genesis DBC, will there be a second genesis DBC, so two root DBCs?

If so, that’s another point against that approach no?

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I think for now it’s all options open there. But I have not thought too much of it really. I am pretty focussed on the basic network right now. I am sure we can be clever about that, given the team and community we have.

We have considered a many root system too. It does work, but fro me simplicity is best.

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GIRFUY Apple fan-bois.

8 minutes to go, looking good. Might actually fly today!

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How are we feeling about it sticking the landing?

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