They seem to value the old internet more than the new. I guess they will find out the hard way. Back when bitcoin was €4, I had 33 bitcoin and paid some one to have a bitcoin lottery developed. It ended up being a mess, if I kept those 33 bitcoins or invested in more, at least I had something. I guess I found out the hard way.
Things like this is really simple, your code gets forked and somebody else does it. If somebody on this form is planning that, I would like to be an investor
A comparison of decentralized marketplace solutions … mind you it was created by a group building it’s own solution … so take with a grain of salt. Still has a lot of interesting information.
OpenBazaar is going to have a tough time using their “anonymizing” algorithms successfully on the centralized internet. It is based on Amir Taaki’s Dark Market hackathon prototype which is likely based on his Dark Wallet algorithm. Dark Wallet has been languishing around with little progress as far as I have seen. Why? Because it probably doesn’t work and is full of holes. Anonymizing bitcoin is a super tough problem to crack. Even the zerocash/zerocoin Phd’s from John’s Hopkins abandoned the effort with their mathematical zero-proof solution. In contrast, Dark Wallet was originally a simple mixer.
Maidsafe is really the only complete solution as far as I know. The key difference is maidsafe is tackling the problem at the operation system level (if you will) while others are solving it at the app level. Maidsafe will succeed because it is rewriting the internet (the “operating system”) while everyone else is trying to build anonymizing solutions on top of a centralized internet (as an “app”). Thus, any solution using the centralized internet will be inherently flawed. Even Tor has it’s own issues with less volunteers setting up Tor nodes/relays and the NSA finding creative ways of circumventing the effectiveness of the system.
I take it they did not read TOR’s license (attributions), which includes openssl code (GPL) with exceptions for TOR. I see this kind of thing often when folk use hash statements and obviously biased and unresearched knowledge base to work from. It’s not hard to read first shout later
So 80% of the net infrastructure is Linux, again GPL, but hey shout loud and it must be true that GPL is crap for networking
Plus, OpenBazaar is now backed by investors who expect high returns. Even though it will be open source, I’m sure there are plans to build sellable private apps and/or services on top of it. So if I were a shareholder, I would think GPL sucks balls too.
GPL is good at preventing corporations taking the code, re-packaging it as their own, then marketing it hard, until dominance is achieved. This is a benefit in many cases.
I suspect that will happen, a free market economy no longer means some big corporation, it can be from anywhere and grasping this is important. In Holland right now they are trialling a citizens income (I would love that to be worldwide, a dream), enough to live relatively OK (think it’s around 1600 Euros per month). Imagine putting keyboards and SAFE in front of people in that condition, amazing. I can tell you this project would have been complete is 1/5 of the time for sure, imagine what others will do. A buyer/seller management system would be a simple start.
I see companies who want to hide their code and algorithms loosing favour faster now, it’s like solar power, exponentially cheaper, peoples demands on freedom are also increasing so we are coming to a nice transition from controlled to free. That kind of transition does not really need us to create code for theft and onto abuse, we can all create code we can all see and use for the betterment of society and if that cannot make profit then the whole system of humankind would collapse.
I’m intrigued by the concept of a base income, especially with ever rising unemployment ahead due to the closing gap in capabilities between AI and humans. But where should the income come from? If from taxes, doesn’t SafeCoin’s anonymity make this a lot harder since it becomes far easier to evade taxes and makes confiscation very hard? If from fresh issuance, why would anyone choose to hold inflationary currency when you can exchange it for a currency that is a decent store of value?
Money is merely a proxy tool we use to account for energy. No ‘big daddy’ is just going to ‘give’ us free energy. And governments/State’s do not HAVE energy - they merely transfer it at gunpoint. If we want to have a better standard of living for people, then we have to 1.) create much cheaper energy than we have today; and 2.) we must get rid of all the artificial barriers that allow for monopolies and this means getting rid of all monopolies on the use of force – States. As State’s enforce all these artificial barriers to new competition.
Once these barriers are down (a philosophical revolution is a prerequisite), competition will pour in and there will be abundant jobs, which will naturally push wages higher. People will become energy wealthy at a young age and have the ability to choose whatever sort of life they wish.
I agree completely, except that I think that it’s a matter of making abundance available to more and more people which is harder and harder for thugs to track and siphon from. Then the edifice will hollow out. It will seem quite substantial right up till near the time that it crumbles to dust. But by then, and because of the fact, a new way of doing things will already be well underway.
Edit: the philosophical revolution is important, but it won’t have to be a huge percent who really get it. It only has to happen first for the likes of us. It’s then our job to make the rest happen, including more philo revo, but mostly making the new machine work.
At the same time we are opening up opportunities through a safe internet, people can build local resources like some food production and storage ability, energy capability, building local trust, and support networks of that kind. There are many ways to reduce scarcity and knowledge gaps and enable more self autonomy, all of which are good resistance against outside control.
I agree with you both, though, it must have a philosophical basis, but once the language of freedom is what everyone is speaking sometimes you don’t need the actual philosophy to spread as widely. If it sets the stage, the actions will follow. My optimistic take.
I don’t see any of this as necessarily about self-sufficiency. We will always depend upon each other. I see it as more about more voluntary interdependency.
Awesome, I didn´t follow this thread and I forgot to follow OpenBazaar since the beginning of this year. Thanks for sharing @MrAnderson (with a lot of delay ;)) Awesome to see what the guys managed to finish and I´m looking forward to see the final OpenBazaar. Certainly no concurrent product, just one more fellow group.
