Mesh network question

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I have a few questions about mesh networks

  • does these networks rely on the cable deep in the ocean ?
  • does the internet as we know it only relies on these cables?
  • what did the egyptian government do exactly to shut the internet?
  • how does a laptop in china connect to a laptop in USA with the mesh network?

thanks

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does these networks rely on the cable deep in the ocean ?

Impossible. The people who operate the cable will only operate for the government interest. CJDNS, and other means will not able to run through those cables, unless some insider managed to implement it.

Mesh network is aimed for local communities, then grow outwards. When we reach to near global stages, then there will be a political changes in the system globally. It will hinder government, and corporations greatly, and the people who operating the ocean cables will lose money, and it’s funding from the godvernment, and the corporations. So two things will go down for them; they lose money, and declare bankruptcy. Somebody will take it’s place, in this case, it will be meshnet company. Most people already funded the most part of it, and this final push will put end to the political debate for decades, or centuries. Or decide to implement the feature, and allow communication flow freely, and continue to make money.

what did the egyptian government do exactly to shut the internet?

The godvernment own the cables.

This is what happens when you allow the emerge of state, church, and corporate power into one mighty state. It monopolies everything, and the minority of the said state get to decide the best interest for the majority. Essentially a mob rule.

That’s why meshnet will eradicate the concept of political, and economical power. Everybody get to transfer the data without the need to know the data itself. They are free to charge people to transfer data. Anybody can become an ISP, so if you want earn coins, you could give them a choice that you’ll transfer the data to other places rather quickly than commit to 3+ hops. Think of the micro payments. A competing meshnet that does a better job than existing ISP companies because they are commit to transfer data for exchange of coin, their living salary. They’ll do for the best interest for the people. This is a individualism (politically) battle versus the godvernment, and it’s corporate ISP minions, and statism school of thought.

how does a laptop in china connect to a laptop in USA with the mesh network?

A lot of hopping from LA to Alaska, to Russia, down to China. Those monster Radio towers, those are the ones we need to transfer data.
Satellites
ocean cables, after the political battle.

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thanks for your answers, i have few follow up questions if you don’t mind

  • ISP can monitor trafic that goes through it, if people become ISP will they be able to spy on each other or is there a solution,encryption maybe?
  • data transfer with mesh network is done through antenna? same as mobile phone?
  • aren’t satellite owned by the government?
  • do you know the best site to follow mesh networks projects and also a good site to donate for mesh network with bitcoin?
  • wouldn’t internet speed be really slow if someone’s data has to go through many different computer in different country before it reaches its target?

thanks

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ISP can monitor trafic that goes through it, if people become ISP will they be able to spy on each other or is there a solution,encryption maybe?

Look up CJDNS, all info is in there. It is a bidirectional router that only serves one purpose, deliver the data to the end point encrypted. It is a dummy router that does not know anything about the data but the routing space address. It just needs to deliver to that routing space address. The beauty of this is that all you need is to connect one peer, and have that peer connect to another peer. And so on. You could communicate with another person who isn’t directed connected to you as long there is another peer that is connected to you, and other user who is connected to him.

A wants to talk to D and it doesn’t know C.
A knows B, B knows C, C knows D.
A sends data to B, B to C, C to D.

Imagine with the combination with safenet, your ip is scrubbed after the first hop. Your peer is the only one that knows you transfered encrypted data to the network.

aren’t satellite owned by the government?

No. A lot of private companies uses it as well. There was a kickstarter qbox or something like that. Sends bunch of meshboxes in space. niche idea.

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woah…heavy, deep thinking. Thank you!

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Also don’t forget that with the advent of SAFE any desktop, laptop or mobile device can become a node. You might also want to look into SDR (software defined radio) or the discussion on using old retired TV channels as wifi bandwidth given that they have much greater range. Come to think of it running a cable under the ocean isn’t the only way to get a signal across. If seasteading ever becomes a big thing you could theoretically create a mesh network between seasteads if they were correctly distanced apart. Or set up a line of bouys or boats.

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Yes, that’s a big use case for HTTPS, VPNs, Tor, etc… mesh networking communities do not ensure security but rather open access. Security is a separate issue (except in the case of CJDNS)

yes, radio antennas are used to transmit data in various parts of the spectrum. Open frequencies include wifi, bluetooth, TV whitespace. There is also a project called Koruza building hardware for optical links

Govts own a lot of satellites by they can be private too.

mesh networks are generally community-based and there are many of them. You can join project mailing lists if you want to keep track of them. If you’re looking for a single project to donate to, shameless plug for the Sudo Mesh project in Oakland, California: http://peoplesopen.net :slight_smile:

Mesh networks generally have a backbone for longer distance connections and to reduce latency.

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thanks to everyone for their answers.

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