You can just trade Hitbtc as you said you never traded on but got funds stuck on for weeks .
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Will price go up if Bittrex fixes its issue? It’s not just a MAID issue, but MAID is quite reliant on Bittrex.
It’s hard to say really. Not sure enabling the wallets will have an impact on price as volume was pretty low even when wallets were enabled.
However, it doesn’t inspire confidence when one of 3 exchanges, and biggest, has the wallet disabled for 15 days now.
As an investor buying into this now i would probably stay away to be honest. HitBtc and P2pB2b are not exactly beacons of confidence.
If this was still in the 150th spot, it’d be at $1.
$2.08 if 100th. $6.7 if 50th. $14.7 if 25th. $49.57 if 10th. $143 if 5th. $844.6 if 2nd. $2039.1 if 1st.
BlahBlah Something Inflation.
And add 2x to 100x (also whatever-inflation) to each of those prices by the time we actually get there, if cryptocurrencies go from 2.1trillion to [who knows how many].
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The sad part is this used to be in the top Cryptocurrencies… 
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Maid taking a hit and that’s with the wallet still disabled @ Bittrex. Going on 16 days tomorrow.
Seriously taking a long time to fix whatever issues they have with a bunch of wallets…
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It’s an interesting observation, but the space has moved a long way since MAID was riding high.
For those companies who are looking to profit, investment cash is being thrown at them. Of course, ethically it is a whole different motivator. We are in the phase where regulatory capture is a barrier to entry, but also fortifies those who have circumvented them. Money and connections talk and they are key to positioning their wares to a wider market.
Maidsafe do things differently. They always have and I suspect they always will. Their motivation is to empower people over making big profits. They want the freedom to do this without having to appease investors, who frequently only care about RoI.
I have witnessed the other extreme, albeit at arms length. The growth of some companies in the space is astonishing, with personnel count sky rocketing. I suspect much like the dot com bubble, many will collapse in time, but while the game is on they are very much playing.
Is MAID performance disappointing? Yes, to a degree. There were far better bets with hindsight. Maybe that will turn around as the network becomes usable and products being built on top start adding overall value to the network and it’s token. It has still done well relative to traditional investments though and ethically, it feels right too.
The space is maturing and there are big bucks riding on companies that are growing larger and larger. The race is on for them. Blockchain success or bust.
Maidsafe seem to have a steadier approach. Fewer big financial bets/risks, less playing the crypto bubble game, more longer term and patient. Maybe that must be the way when trying to develop something as unique and complex, which will be anti establishment in so many ways.
Some others may be winning the blockchain sprint, but Maidsafe are pacing themselves for a marathon.
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This is yet another reason why I anticipate lower prices to come because some will get fed up of holding an investment which is doing absolutely nothing aside from slowly drifting downwards and especially if they think their capital would be put to better use.
As for me, I have stated that I am going to keep it, see what happens, if nothing happens then it’s a lesson learned not to buy into what you think could be without a strong working model in place, not to mention the financial muscle.
Bitcoin raising, totally expected that ppl will try and jump on that train.
Also we have low volume making it easier to move price.
I’m just hodling on.
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I’m not sure that betting on which top 100 blockchain companies will survive will be easier though. Many dot com companies were riding high early on and then collapsed to nothing. The few survivors did well, but most didn’t. Spreading your cash over the forerunners may limit losses, but likewise the gains.
Safe network is a bet which has a relatively low chance of success, but a huge potential pay off if it succeeds. I suppose you have to balance your portfolio accordingly.
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You know global MAID price is calculated by weighted volume? Right now HitBTC control about 82% of MAID price through the MAID/USDT, by $363 000 in daily volume.
What define low volume? There is a lot of talk about low volume but no one speaks numbers on what that is.
One thing that occasionally irks me is that the features that have long been foreseen and enabled by this networks design are now finally becoming a reality on individual blockchain platforms. Probably too many to mention here without an extensive list.
OTOH almost every individual feature are niche to each one of these blockchain platforms.
Blockchains weren’t interoperable in the past but that is beginning to change as well, though what really is happening there? Are Solana, Internet Computer, Polkadot going to be interoperable with each other? Or close each other out in competition? It seems so risky for people choosing to create things or transactions on one chain that might later fizzle out and not be recognized on others. Blockchain makes this all easier to recover from too though with a full transparent ledger.
So what does that mean for us? Slowly but surely the blockchain world is catching up but they are missing a few important things. Hard to sum up tbh, but the network being backed by data, ease of use, full network wide compatibility, private/fast/free transactions, online/offline data storage and mutations, our consensus mechanisms, probably more I’m missing.
Feature wise you can probably find any number of blockchain companies covering one thing or another such as, digital ID, NFTs and royalty payments (which I’ve been planning for longer than what I’ve seen in the wider crypto space…), atomic swaps, immutable domains, content publishing, etc etc.
It’s just that the whole space happening now was envisaged and built to be possible for Safe Network loooong ago. Every investor knew this project was ambitious early on but no one knew it would take this long. Regardless, this is my favorite project. I believe this is what cypher punks really wanted.
It will succeed, I truly believe that. It’s just a matter of how quickly we can gain traction and interest. The more apps we have, the more exposure we have, the better. I hope we all put in the required effort to make sure it pops like the champagne corks we’ll all be popping 
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I do believe it will succeed too, but moving an existing platform design (blockchain) forward is easier and lower risk than creating an entirely new one.
Imo, the biggest risk for safe network is time. Given enough effort and money, blockchains may be sculptured to solve many of the same problems. Will it solve them all? No. Will it solve them as elegantly? No. Will folks realise it when Maidsafe get to market? That’s the big question.
It feels a bit like electric vs ICE cars. An optimised ICE car, backed by big money, has kept them ahead for over a century. Finally, due to limits in how far they can be optimised and how clean they can run, electric cars are starting to surpass them. Many electric car designs and companies failed before Tesla pulled it off. Let’s hope Maidsafe are on the right side of history and the safe network proves itself quickly enough to become established.
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In truth, the time factor is crippling the success, the idea that competition just remains frozen without moving forwards is fanciful.
It is not a good sell to people, since it’s been over 10 years and still nothing. I wouldn’t want to bet than in 12 months time we have something.
You do not sound like any kind of hopeful investor…
Or are you hoping that this constant stream of negative pish will cause some hodler to fold and then you can swoop in and grab coins cheap?
If you want more coins, buy them on Bittrex or give us peace. Dunno what it is you are trying to achieve but you contribute nothing of any value…
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The hope that I have had is indeed dissipating. I was hopeful, it’s ebbing away, but it is, what it is. I hardly think that one person’s opinion is going to be enough to cause the price to fold, if it did, then enough said. My point whilst not being upbeat is valid and therefore it doesn’t matter whether you agree, approve, we are where we are.
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As a long time substantial MAID holder and supporter of the project since 2014, I do get the sense of “one step forward and two steps back” with regards progress. It’s like the finish line keeps moving further into the future. It’s not helped by some posters who suggest still more years of development are required.
My original passion for the project was based on the vision of a fully peer-to-peer and decentralised internet - a most worthy goal given the online reality we witness today.
So it’s no surprise the price has tanked over time. Fretting over lack of exchange listings and technical issues, like whether to move MAID to the Ethereum platform or not, are besides the point.
All that matters is the project succeeding. If it does, price will look after itself. If it doesn’t, then it’s a bust.
For myself, I haven’t sold any MAID, although I’ve been tempted to recently (given I bought it with Bitcoin). But fact is I don’t need the money, so continue to hold and hope for eventual success. But my patience is not unlimited and I want to see explicit practical progress measured in months, not years.
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This won’t happen. They probably will never release nothing. It is too much for this little software workshop. For a project like this you need a real software company with hundreds of devs, managers, software cicle in place, etc… They have nothing of that. Just check the github the last years and how they faced the problems…a total nonsense madness.
They tried it, but too much for them, end of story.
Great! So the Safe Network will be the all-in-one, easy to use solution: the ads write themselves. seems like blockchain is already doing a lot of marketing for Safe. I’m optimistic we will see a working test-net sooner than later. It doesn’t feel like years away for me, time will tell.
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The team has been working hard for a long time, and things are moving forward.
Currently just concerned with what’s going on with our main exchange. Not being able to retrieve coins you buy or send coins to an exchange for almost 17 days is a prety bad thing.
Sure, it’s not their only wallet that has issues, but 17 days is an eternity with the amount of exchanges getting hacked lately…
Has anyone from the Maid team reached out to Bittrex to find out what is happening, their support seems clueless…
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