I don’t know why, but I really dislike the expression going viral.
However, I find the models of COVID19 spreading quite interesting. Even quite small R0 -number eventually leads to widespread epidemic. Anything more than 1 is expanding.
I wonder if our capacity to infect other people with the interest in Safe Network could be evaluated somehow? Is there a way of mapping how many other people our members have recently contacted and possibly infected.
Or if none, why is that, and when would they contact? How many of those are expected to extend the contact chain?
I personally have not yet contacted anyone recently, though I think that today I might contact a friend or two to tell about the recent testnets. I think that at least one of them would join the next testnet, and invest some amount to MAID. When testnet becomes a bit more stable I will reach out to more friends. I expect that maybe 2-5 of my friends are going to develope a lasting interest in the network. Same people would likely invest.
@Sotros25 do you know if there are some standard ways of evaluating this kind of propagation of messages?
I have tapped people of all sorts of backgrounds. Today I actually think I had the most diametrically opposed convo you could have with two people about crypto in general. One is invested in bitcoin and a couple other good projects. I believe I convinced him to take a look at maid for a long term play. The other person I talked to, who is 40 (so on the younger end), thinks if you can’t hold it, it has no value.
To your point though I think I’ve planted this project in so many peoples heads over time that the true data won’t show up on a success rate until I can sit at lunch with someone, take out my phone and run a user friendly product. With any luck by the time I’m doing that, maid will be $25+ and I can say, should have listened earlier.
Based on the above I thought you were referring to virological terminology that may sound negative in connection to the Safe Network, e.g. one can “contract” a virus.
Even though he meant physically. I think this is very accurate for crypto projects in the bear cycles… if there’s no real traction / promise / value, you shouldn’t be found holding coins/tokens when the market turns. Quality will come floating to the top eventually.
…but you can hold a hard disk, and a computer processor, and you can hold data ( printed out if you wish). Data items used to be held in massive filing cabinets, most successful businesses had valuable data in physical form.
Safe Network Tokens allows people to hold data securely. Business data, personal photos, music collections. The SAFENetwork is all about holding securely and giving people the ability to hold.
It probably won’t convince your friend.
One last try…
If not being able to hold something in your hand means it has no value… does he pay for Netflix and other streaming products? If so, why are they throwing money away on movies and music that can’t be held.
SAFENetwork will let everyone create a stream of their own and the network needs physical resources to be maintained and held by the public and so will reward them with tokens.
It’s interesting when you think about value, and “ownership” of things.
Presumably this guy would see the value in owning property, his own physical house for example. Accept, it doesn’t really matter to the house one bit who thinks they own it. It still goes on being a house.
His rights as owner of that house really extend to the legal framework around property rights, and the governments part in upholding them. That’s all on paper, and totally changeable.
Ownership of encrypted data on an autonomous network though? The keys to it remain in your head, and it’s only for you to unlock and access.
Which one of these scenarios confer more natural, innate, ownership do you think?
It took me 17 months to infect 12 random people who had never heard of Safe. You may notice that the group’s name already includes Safe and there is more talks about Safe than other things
Surprised to see bitcoin drop like this and alts not see an extended rally as dominance was falling. Anyone have thoughts? Maybe now the attention is on buying this BTC retest?
I am just being realistic, it would take a huge awareness campaign spearheaded by marketing, interviews, a big expansion of exchanges to build up this name.
This has been in the works for so long that a lot simply lost interest.
That’s just the unfortunate reality, it’s hard to celebrate being over 1 dollar when every coin and his dog has jumped tens of times too.
My expectations have been massively tempered in the last 3.5 years so anything better than that is a bonus but there would have to be large funds which it seems aren’t there anymore, if they ever were.
@Zoki@JimCollinson Your above discussions about my conversation with my friend is almost so spooky that either you were both spying on the call or perhaps the examples you brought up are just coincidently, exactly how someone like him thinks.
I asked him on the phone about possessions that he would never want to go digital and the first answer out of his mouth was his movie collection. He does not subscribe to Netflix or similar and has an extensive DVD collection that is his pride and joy. He also mentioned certain movies that would never be released to a Netflix like platform (specifically Dogma) due to something with Harvey Weinstein. To his credit, I did a quick search and he appeared to be correct.
Second, I asked him what had value to him in the physical world then that would always have value. His answer was his land/home. Even with that answer though he quickly admitted that while land will always be valuable in his eyes, you never know if the government tries to change the rules to which the property is no longer yours. So even in discussion about things which he believed to have value Bc he can hold them in his hands and feels them and legal tender to them, he’s still not totally comfortable with the arrangement, but perhaps it’s the best we can do.
You can see why this particular person would be a hard sell not just for SN but for anything. I did mention at the end to him that this quite literally checks all his boxes of ownership and freedom, just with a little belief and nuance.
Anyway, that was a lot of rambling but you gentlemen nailed this guy to a “T”. I’ll keep working on him and others as this becomes easier to showcase to the world.
Realistic? I’d say pessimistic. MAID moves in different ways to bitcoin or other alts. It may follow the broad cycle pattern, but it had tended to have lower highs and higher lows than others. Less extreme movements.
Those getting excited now may well have been here since ICO or are new to the brand. Neither of these have made fiat losses and have either been on a similar ballpark to BTC or have gained on BTC.
Of course there are those who bought in after the ICO and saw their BTC value drop. Are they the ones who either had the vision at the start or are excited at new beginnings though? I suspect they may well feel pessimistic and/or have dumped their bags already.
Supporting Maidsafe and the safe network project is very much a marathon and not a sprint. The good news is, we’re catching up with the leaders again, step by step.
I think some folk, often very smart folk, just have trouble attributing value to digital stuff. Others have similar issues attributing value to art. In this day and age, digital value is more important than ever though.
I think the realism is by taking out the equation those that have been here since ICO and instead looking at those that bought in within the last 4 years.
This price growth has to have a real driver. BTC won’t keep rising rapidly in perpetuity and those fundamental things are needed, both marketing and exchanges. The question is how you get there. The team doesn’t even have a marketing focus so that’s only being done by a volunteer. I commend that person but equally that can’t continue either.
