Hey @joshuef, how can I get failed to fetch... in a failed upload, after uploading the same file (several times) successfully before? Aren’t the new chunks the same as the old ones, and trying to fetch a new chunk should deliver one of the old ones? What am I not getting here?
You’re not not getting anything. In theory.
In practice it could be payments (where the error message needs improved). If you’re failing to pay, that data wont be retreivable, and that may be your issue. If eg your wallet is corrupt (past spend went to the network, but wasn’t written locally), that could be it (the network sees a double spend, so doesn’t accept the new one so you can’t pay for your data again; atm, every spend is done again regardless of if you’ve paid for chunks before).
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Stupid question from a non-tech guy who tried but failed to connect (i guess because i am behind 2 home routers):
Do files get lost at all in these testnets?
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There are no stupid questions here, only the unasked questions are stupid 
Files don’t get lost, the only thing that happens is that they can’t be uploaded to the network for some reason, or if they manage to be uploaded, they are saved in pieces, distributed all over the network.
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On the other hand, they do get lost when the test ends and the testnet is taken down.
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Yep.
======= Verification complete: all chunks paid and stored =============
Uploaded all chunks in 53 minutes 29 seconds
This is the file if anyone wants to try to download it. Size: 393,170,097 bytes
test01.mkv → 1be692a7bf9096735159b645e92a6c9f0ad6bf42b14d58e647648a4165fecb21
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just tried to download no dice
Error downloading "test01.mkv": Chunks error Not all chunks were retrieved, expected 750, retrieved 748, missing [e8f7b6(11101000).., f84701(11111000)..]..
real 10m16.973s
user 2m25.694s
sys 0m42.674s
So, who fancies trying the latest client?
safeup client --version 0.82.3
To try out it’s neatest feature, you’ll need to unset SAFE_PEERS (on ubuntu at least… windows I’m not sure). You should then be able to run the client as usual, but without having to specify peers anywhere.
ie, no SAFE_PEERS=<peerid> and no --peer=<peerid>.
If you do it’ll overwrite the network-contacts retrieval from s3 and it’ll just use those.
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Client 82.3 passes the begblag test for me
ubuntu@safe-hamilton:~$ safe -V
sn_cli 0.82.3
ubuntu@safe-hamilton:~$ safe files download BegBlag.mps 80744b3d25bab269cab54e8baccf4f54f1aa01615230b99171bc3576c1ca7230
Built with git version: 7f609f8 / main / 7f609f8
Instantiating a SAFE client...
Trying to fetch the bootstrap peers from https://sn-testnet.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/network-contacts
Connecting to the network w/peers: ["/ip4/142.93.232.219/tcp/38095/p2p/12D3KooWLAX6Z1m5gNxPGZQRV6VEzCtipNGcP1YhrAYNYT3yq5mv", "/ip4/64.227.158.176/tcp/34893/p2p/12D3KooWG3cHz8aM9Zf2Gyar7NBb2BZ2wfcBf1zY7PHuUtn3EkvL", "/ip4/147.182.237.224/tcp/46429/p2p/12D3KooWFCbRRe6GoyTvgbVqDK7VnD3TwEsM2876pBzuB1G3KHKj", "/ip4/139.59.125.187/tcp/33641/p2p/12D3KooWNUNgbhC2zEUNVJzn72BxD4ooZ7kTE4NSa3pCmcGobGQj", "/ip4/142.93.76.173/tcp/41717/p2p/12D3KooWJ51eYsdyksy87PazS3M7wRVdPNJWfH58u8fxBk2Y9hdp", "/ip4/142.93.76.173/tcp/46229/p2p/12D3KooWQi1eeRbwtRWRvYTSQ2gSKt6M8QjseS65Hwzb7PDGKghE"]...
🔗 Connected to the Network Downloading BegBlag.mps from 80744b3d25bab269cab54e8baccf4f54f1aa01615230b99171bc3576c1ca7230
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Client downloaded file in 32.877776755s
Saved BegBlag.mps at /home/ubuntu/.local/share/safe/client/BegBlag.mps
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So I gave it a go and it failed:
Error downloading “test.mkv”: Chunks error Not all chunks were retrieved, expected 750, retrieved 746, missing
[e8f7b6(11101000)…, 2138ff(00100001)…, f84701(11111000)…, c8632c(11001000)…]
Interestingly though I’m missing four chunks whereas you were only missing two.
So it does look like a network problem. Any thoughts @joshuef ? Do we need more copies or is data getting deleted?
Maybe others with fast connections can give this go and see if it works for them. More confirmations here could be helpful.
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so hopefully not stating the obvious here
so far for this network iv ran nodes of 3 different versions and now on a new client version
does this mean that upgrade ability for a running network has been solved ?
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BTW, has anyone tried some other functionalities like:
- Sending money?
- Creating an updateable file? (Register, or whatever that was…)
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Not necessarily.
We’ll need a protocol level update to be sure. But it’s certainly working as intended so far (and is improved to prev networks 
)
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Neither my laptop or cloud instance have a logs directory under ~/.local/share/safe/client/. Is there something I needed to do to enable them? Ah, seems I have to use --log-output-dest…
I just retried with the ‘failing’ SAFE_PEERS and it was taking ages to connect but I hadn’t set --log-output-dest so I retried with that and got logs but unf it now connects immediately 
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expected 750, retrieved 748
Just to add, same as @digipl
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Rebooted and upgraded to the latest safe - seems to be working fine now.
Connection to the network much faster now too with v0.82.3
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In my opinion both node and client could log to a file as a default. That data is valuable and is too easy to miss now.
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Yep, updated to 0.82.3, unset SAFE_PEERS, and it bootstrapped from AWS no problem.
Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS.
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Updated the OP with v0.82.3, removed the export peers instruction for Linux/Mac client.
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That’s confusing actually … what were the chunk id’s?
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