Aug 13, 2024 Discord Stage Summary

Detailed Summary of Aug 13, 2024 Discord Stage

Rusty: What have you been up to? You’ve been very quiet until a few days ago.

Bux: I’ve been focused on two key areas:

  1. Launching the Network: This involves planning what we need to get the network operational and how we can best achieve that. I’m open to changes and resolutions to ensure we reach our goals.

  2. Building a True Network: By definition, a network is “a group or system of interconnected people or things.” This isn’t something we can accomplish as individuals; we need groups, existing customers, and audiences. These groups usually come with data, which is crucial for node operators and, by extension, for generating rewards.

Rusty: Can you share any details about the partnerships you’re working on? Any leaks?

Bux: It’s tempting, but I want to respect our partners and the scale of what we’re building. Announcements need to be made thoughtfully, with well-planned communications to effectively show people what we’re building. There’s a lot of noise in the space—CoinGecko reported in April that 5,300 new tokens are launched every day. That’s a lot of hype without much substance. In contrast, Crunchbase data shows that the Web3 sector has attracted over $100 billion in investment. By 2025, 90% of top internet applications are expected to be Web3-enabled, with over 1 million daily active users and a user base exceeding 100 million globally. Web3 privacy-focused projects have gained over 5 million active users, and decentralised identity solutions have onboarded over 50 million users.

Rusty: Let’s address the elephant in the room. What’s happening with home networks, and what are we doing to fix it?

Bux: We’re focusing on three main things: triage, focus, and timeline. The investigation into home nodes is ongoing, and we’re waiting on some pull requests (PRs) in libp2p. Another part of the issue is excessive bandwidth usage caused by unnecessary data replication.

Rusty: Many people are curious about the October launch. What are your thoughts and plans?

Bux: The October launch isn’t just a one-time event; it’s ongoing. Two key elements will be present:

  1. Data Upload: This focuses on decentralised storage, which is central to our project.

  2. Payment for Hosting Data: This will involve partner data and integrations with applications that will help increase network use and visibility.

Regarding quantum security, I want to clarify that our encrypted chunks are “information theoretically secure.” This means that even with unlimited computing power and time, the security of these chunks cannot be broken because they don’t hold enough information to be decoded in any way. This makes them quantum-proof. However, the network itself, being probabilistic rather than deterministic (similar to AI or large language models), is more complex and harder to quantify in terms of security.

Rusty: What happens after the 12 weeks of Wave 1? What’s the plan going forward?

Bux: We’ll need Wave 1 participants to test other aspects of the network. These original participants are the right ones to continue this testing, and we’ll incentivize them to do so.

Rusty: The team has been working hard on updates. One of them is on the launchpad. Here is a leak: posted in autonomi-news

Rusty: What would you say to new people joining the project? Why should they stick around for the beta and beyond?

Bux: I encourage them to think beyond Web3, crypto, and blockchain. Consider what the internet should look like in the future. Given what’s happening in the world, this technology has immense power that has yet to be fully realised. I’d rather see it used for the benefit of the people rather than against them.

Rusty: For those new people, what makes Autonomi better than a local storage solution?

Bux: As I mentioned earlier, Autonomi combines the control of local storage with the connectivity of a network, putting users in control rather than relying on platforms or single sign-on (SSO) systems. It’s important to note that 95% of adults are now familiar with this technology, and 46% use VPNs, while 93% of organisations use VPNs. The internet was originally a product of DARPA, and our use of it is essentially a byproduct. Autonomi offers a way to regain control.

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Great news, can’t wait for --home-network and live release.

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What is the problem with home nodes? I have zero issue with running nodes from home.
Is this a user or software issue, seems the former from where I sit.

i don’t have issues with port forwarding.

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The launchpad doesn’t make nanos…


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If you don’t port forward you don’t earn nanos, are you earning using -home-network? Only one machine I look after is not port forwarded and it doesn’t earn.

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Does the launchpad really open the floodgates to mass participation?

Port Forwarding works very well.
UPnP seemed to work well when I tried it.

I get the dream of making it easy but is the effort and difficulty LaunchPad users experience worth it.

Is LaunchPad so much easier even if it worked flawlessly that it opens the door to users that would otherwise not participate.

I forward, why are you not on that machine?

For folks that haven’t earned in weeks I ask the same question. It is not impossible to figure out.

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The router just won’t work with it, the nodes won’t connect.

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Is it a standard ISP provided router? interested now, sounds like a challenge :slightly_smiling_face:

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For me it works for a while and then suddenly I end up with 0 peers at some point…

… And one of my referrals doesn’t have any forwarding options in his router settings (for ip4… I think he doesn’t have a ip4 address or at least doesn’t have one of his own…) so --home-network is his only option…

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Today we found out that 11% of the registrations in the Discord channel are from Bulgaria. Which is much more than my direct acquaintances, and so I started asking my acquaintances if they promoted the beta. I assume that some of the registrations are from posts I posted on BG crypto groups, but there are also from my direct contacts. For example, this conversation pretty well answers what happens without the launchpad:

Here is a translation:

A.:
yes i saw

I went to acquaintances who have a store and workshop for hardware and generally deal with computers

to run a Autonomi server with them

and since it never worked I stopped going there to ask them how things were and they said they had given up

but then they invited various customers to join

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
With a real IP and node manager it works

Who is your internet provider?

A.:
supposedly real IP, they are in Ruse and are from some unknown supplier

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
I’m asking about your IP

A.:
mine is not real

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
Which provider are you on?

A.:
vivacom

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
Are you asking them to turn on bridge mode for you?

A.:
no, but I will now use a VPS and then maybe they will have solved the problem with the home network

bridge mode i don’t know what it is

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
where will you use vps?

A.:
well i think vultr

Dimitar Autonomi Bulgaria:
Bridge mode gives you a real IP address on one of the ports of the router and the computer you connect there

I haven’t tested them

For my friends, I have launched VPS in contabo for 11 euros per month 3 nodes

And at https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ for 15 euros 5 nodes per month

So, in short, I think that with the launchpad, a lot more people will be ready to try, because you only click one .exe. Port forwarding is for the hard users…


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Except for a edge case here and there it is something anyone can figure out with a little effort.

So if they want to earn rewards I dont understand why not take 2, 4, 6 hours if you must and figure it out.

When you don’t know what to do it can be intimidating, agreed. But going for weeks and not earning instead?

Well, A. is a woman, who can say what goes through their heads :slight_smile: For sure, half of humanity will find it easier to press only one .exe :wink:


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Yeah standard isp router but tried everything just won’t work. He’s trying to get new router going so hopefully that will help.

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