I was thinking about something like a laser based thing (to achieve competitive bandwidth) with an omnidirectional receiver and 3-4 directed transmitters that would actively seek out nearby units. I haven’t actually researched the relevant tech so please don’t laugh if it’s badly unfeasible; 
EDIT: Maybe it would be easier to just use a beacon and directed receiver/transmitter pairs.
They could just be a very secure backup, and then performance doesn’t matter because chunks that are accessed frequently are cached.
Immutable blocks on the Safe Network live forever but, unless they are popular, there are only a small (8?) number of copies kept of them. Read-only storage can reach enormous densities, especially if we consider the methods that are still under development. This opens up possibilities.
I can imagine running a huge number of vaults for a few months, then “freezing” them (ugly core change, anyone?), and copying their state to high-capacity read-only medium, then putting it on a cubesat on orbit as a collection of special read-only backup vaults. Upload bandwidth is then limited to sending requests for chucks.
EDIT: Some care should be taken to make sure all copies of the same chunk don’t end up on the same sat. I’m not sure how to do that or, for that matter, to implement any of this idea. I’m just musing about a possible opportunity here.
Home media servers are growing in popularity. Scheduled to be a 200 Billion dollar market by 2020. See the thing is that peoples personal media is growing and as their homes begin to become smart and connected that will require even more safe data storage alongside personal media, the current solution IMHO is the NAS aka Home Media Server per my OP. The ISSUE currently with uptake is NONE of the companies have figured out a way to market these products to regular folks, the only people buying these are tech heads, business owners, young men that download lots of media etc, the mom & pop market is untapped, I believe I have a solution to that and once these folks have a NAS at home the step from there to SAFE is easy. Trying to take them from nothing to SAFE is a little bit trickier and of course there are different channels but I see this as one HUGE opportunity.
I am going to try to set aside some time to ponder and meditate on this some more and see where it leads. If anyone is interested in perhaps getting involved or at least asking questions and testing my business case please do so. Currently the idea would be to simply online retail already existing solutions being Qnap, Synology, Western Digital etc and simply market to people that the current retailers and manufacturers are not marketing to.
Perhaps someone more technical than myself can offer some input on how the hardware of a NAS media server would work with our network…?
Have an APP screen (safe site) showing some popular SAFE APPs that stream media from the public file storage (or users private storage) in SAFE. So the APPs are like the netflix selection screen and user friendly for the person.
All that comes off the safe network, and only the safe client and auto login details are on the media centre and a autorun APP safesite which has the media APPs displayed so the user chooses which one they want.
Then in the background of the media centre separate to the client stuff is the node/vault software.
I think these are quite different, though both are great ideas.
The one I wrote about is a vault, and I agree it’s not straightforward to market to non-tech folks. If farming could return the investment within a fraction of the lifetime of the device, or if it’s mixed with the mesh network idea and there’s enough coverage to make a broadband subscription redundant (farther in the future, in dreamland) then I can see how it could work. Otherwise, it’ll be a tough nut.
Neo’s interpretation is a client, along the lines of the Roku stick. I can see how that could gain traction real fast.
Isn’t the talk here about solar powered nodes and potential mesh networks essentially what the Skycoin (Sky Network) project is going for in the long term?
I think the SAFE mechanism for decentralization is better than Skycoin from a security and technical standpoint, but they have substantial funding (compared to SAFE). It would be interesting to see the two projects partner, although it would take Sky conceding their work in the secure web space to SAFE, which they may be unwilling to do. Their ideas around the future of the Internet via mesh networks and personal fiber lines is interesting, if a little naive, IMO.
Ahh my mistake.
All good ideas, but obviously mine is the best 
JK
I do think that a box in the range of $150 that serves a purpose other than privacy, security is a pretty sweet foot in the door with protecting and storing peoples personal photo’s in their own home and then eventually on the network. Chicken or egg? No, we need data to farm. Your idea is good but I think if we can prompt uptake with Normies there will be a domino effect.
I have. Range and cost are the current limitations. The current cost of the batteries to support 24/7 operation is also another limiting factor. Solar panels are cheap… and the easiest part.
I was thinking of uploading a photo of my face as a public immutable file. A scary idea, because it feels so final - a bit like a tattoo in that respect. Public intimate files could serve as digital counterparts to tattoos. Maybe someone can create a business idea around that?
I am just curious to hear if there are any solutions that Maidsafe will build into the network to disallow illegal distribution of intellectual property/copyright content. Or anyway to stop it? Would be nice to build something into the network - if possible.
To build that in is to allow virtually any content to be deleted. Just claim the content is infringement of copyright and it can be deleted. Censorship mechanism!
Oh and the SAFE network doesn’t know what content you are uploading, its encrypted via self-encryption on your machine before being sent to the network to store. Thus the network has no way to censor anything, nor is any form of censorship being considered.
As the copyright trolls/owners found out, there is no real technical means to prevent copying except to force owners of networks to delete the content themselves. Even youtube has trouble keeping up and their AI doesn’t work perfectly. It deletes valid stuff and misses quite a lot of infringements.
Given these set of facts, do you think legitimate artists will avoid the Safe Network in favor of channels that attempt to enforce their property rights? Could the piracy concerns of creative professionals cause a drag on the adoption rate of Safe?
It won’t help them prevent the infringement. The ones that are aggressive in enforcement are unlikely to use anything they cannot control.
But I do hope/believe that with the benefits of SAFE and the PtP (Pay the Provider) that Original Artists will upload the best quality of their works and as such will be the preferred source of their works. People will usually get the content from the best source and the original if they can. PtP will ensure they can and the Artists will earn from that assuming their works are actually any good.
Well theoretically, anyone could download the original content and then re-distribute illegal without anyone knowing who is doing it on the SAFE network. Dont we see that as a problem. I mean anyone can start selling anything and not worry about copyright infringment laws at all?
Dont we risk Maid becoming another bittorrent?
We have a couple of large topics on this.
But as soon as anyone can delete content then SAFE is no longer (S)ecure. You then lose (E)veryone since people could have all their content removed. Basically we lose SAFE and its just like the current internet when your data is potentially lost because someone (government, or media) doesn’t like it.
Please continue this discussion that has been discussed before in the topic for it since this discussion is taking this topic off course.
https://forum.autonomi.community/t/recent-questions-about-safes-societal-implications/7146
Well Elon Musk have some project to bring worldwide high speed Internet with latency about 25ms.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/space-exploration-technologies/elon-musk-spacexs-starlink-satellite-broadband-service-meets-key-performance-metric/
His satellites have to be quite lower than current ones( from 36 000km above earth to 400-1 200km ) Than it is possible,
Other idea is $1.2b project with about 900 satellites http://www.oneweb.world/ with promising 30ms latency and probably due less satellites only 50mbps speed.
They both use Frequency between 10-20Ghz which is quite good for long distances, especially with high attitude, but storms will disturb it quite often.
Oxygen attenuation:
Rain attenuation:
Hi, there are a number of posts on this forum about this topic, just search for “copyright” or similar. Here is one to kick it off:
Nice idea. I’d get one.
