When there is a little more time can someone expand on what was proved right and was wasn’t?
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I’m guessing this will help shrink the differences between test environments and real world environments?
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Yes, it should in theory, though it can’t meet all edge cases (not possible). However, these types of network connectivity methods are the high level category off the type off network found at folks’ homes for vast majority of folks out there.
It will also help simplify the ultimate end solution (as team drifts closer to its final specifications) on the bootstrap sequence off antnode. Team should be able to test that out under all these conditions and see how it performs as well, which will be a huge benefit in validating the PRs around it.
In addition, it helps us test out even nodes that require relay assistance in these different environments, and whether connectivity has succeeded or not via a proxy relayer etc, and if PUTs or GETs are working against that relay node and payments are being received or not etc.
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But it they are waiting it out like the rest of us, why dump ANT?
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The only issue I have right now is a working network. After that folk can scream and shout about emissions all day every day for infinity.
A working network really should be 100% focus right now. That and only that will get us what we need to have a whole capable team of engineers and the business teams able to get moving on all fronts.
If we don’t get a working network asap then the games over. Simple as that
Turning emissions up to max or stopping them completely won’t fix this. We have to keep those emissions screams out of at least one single shaggin thread so the engineers can get some feedback that’s not a constant drone about something that won’t fix the routing tavlea api or dead nodes.
Just one single thread without all this constant persistent singular obsession would be wonderful and helpful.
It’s Chinese torture now and it’s just a total waste to have it in every single thread in every single place every single day to every single team member who shows up at any location.
Can we just stop it for a while and get the basics working at scale here please
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@dirvine I think the issue is that people in this forum don’t know what to do right now to bring this project forward… So what they do is trying to help out where they think they see an issue …
- Marketing is in slow mode because of the network issues - no point in pushing hard here on other communication channels while we have upload issues
- It doesn’t make sense to interact with the network that we have right now and just waste eth on fees…
- Setting up your nodes as a hobby is done within 5 minutes and there’s no point in trying to get rich with node running if you don’t have your own data center with spare capacity you can put to work here …
… I don’t think it’s hostility at all… It’s the annoying crowd that eagerly tries to help …
People have been told “it’s happening” a year ago and since then there’s not much to do in this forum anymore… The team is busy fixing stuff and we have limited toys to play with…
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You are spot on and the team also has that pressure but they have nobody to slaughter to the gods if emissions 
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noooooooooooooo please no 
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I honestly believe the emissions screams from everyone here are with the best intent to get us to a working network but it I hear you 
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Or just one single thread where the personnel who are responsible for the emissions debate about it with the community. Then everyone else can focus on other things.
Note that I personally don’t have very strong opinions about the emissions.
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If someone makes me Moderator I can program a bot utilising a local llm to decide if new posts are about emissions and just move all posts about emissions in one large topic
(I just hope this is a temporary issue and therefore I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle =D but then again… It’s most certainly a pretty simple task… )
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Wow been out all day just settled down to read the update and I can see you have all been busy
@Shu thanks for sharing really enjoy reading your posts.
@dirvine I promise never to mention emissions again 
Well done to all the team and thanks for all the hard work
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Codeword: lollipops 
going forward 
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Can you imagine being that person. Just how busy they are the fact they did a paper presentations and discord sessions on that and then go into a thread to discuss that forever. Who would pay that person and who would recruit their replacement for us ?
Try and get a community to agree on the colour of the sky 
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I’ll make sure the llm considers lollipops to be emissions 
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I vote @riddim for mod
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I am sure there’s places to discuss and critique. Just not everywhere all at once
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That horse has been well flogged but like @riddim said we’re all champing at the bit to get uploading and using the network
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I see what you mean. But there’s a real pressure here, and if it’s not directed somewhere, it will go everywhere.
I don’t see why there would need to be any pressure… If someone feels a pressure because of emissions I think it’s that persons very own business…
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