Can you imagine being that person. Just how busy they are the fact they did a paper presentations and discord sessions on that and then go into a thread to discuss that forever. Who would pay that person and who would recruit their replacement for us ?
Try and get a community to agree on the colour of the sky 
I’ll make sure the llm considers lollipops to be emissions 
I vote @riddim for mod 
I am sure there’s places to discuss and critique. Just not everywhere all at once
That horse has been well flogged but like @riddim said we’re all champing at the bit to get uploading and using the network 
I see what you mean. But there’s a real pressure here, and if it’s not directed somewhere, it will go everywhere.
I don’t see why there would need to be any pressure… If someone feels a pressure because of emissions I think it’s that persons very own business…
And they really don’t have to debate it more than they are willing to. Just to say “We are responsible” would be relief to others.
I will be responsible if that helps I really don’t care. Apparently it was discussed in last nights stages but I am not sure but it probably won’t help either it will just keep going on.
If folk need to shout we should create a thread where they can vent away or at least make their point once and that may help whoever read that but it cannot just keep on going
While it’s a contentious issue, the official emission spergout topic could be pinned as well.
Well that’s noble but not very credible after all the “I don’t care about the money”
Anyway, I have made my point and stop now. It’s not right for me to put any more pressure to anyone.
It is done The Emissions Thread -aka lollipops
Thanks for all the tremendous efforts Maidsafe, keep on trucking 
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David, you make inflammatory accusations that misrepresent the community and now tell everyone to shut up while again ignoring the sincere and rational arguments made on the topic.
Emissions is not something that I’ve engaged in because I realise we aren’t listened to and responses tend to ignore the points being made. My comments are generally on how things are handled.
This shift began a year ago and has taken various forms - it’s not about this issue or that, but about relationship. Autonomi have squandered the healthy collaboration that got us this far together. The community didn’t change because of money or things being delayed. Anyone who has been here more than a couple of years surely knows that.
I see there’s little point pushing any particular issue so I say my piece when I feel it needs to be said, and then get on with code.
Several hours most days for the past year without a break because we were, we all thought heading rapidly to launch. That’s all up in the air again, but for now I continue, currently adding dweb RESTful APIs for Autonomi in the hope that we will one day have a functioning network, even if not the network for everyone I so wish it could be.
I don’t know why Autonomi have behaved the way they have towards the community, or why they continue in that vein, but it is particularly galling to watch you turning on us the way you have in recent weeks. Attacking, misrepresenting and blaming, while ignoring Autonomi’s role in all this.
Inflammatory false accusations only serves to make things worse, and I am very surprised to see you persisting in that.
This is why I stay away and no longer read most topics. I think the only way this will improve now is if the network begins to improve and we can all shift to building on and using it. It’s a real shame that if that finally begins to happen, this period will be a bitter backdrop and not a continuation of the sense of all being on the same page, together in all our differences, that existed for over a decade prior.
You know, this is an interesting point to dwell on.
The forum has always been a pretty frank place for debate. It was never a place to talk lambos and moons etc. It has been a place of debate and honest exchanges.
Discord came in and there was a different atmosphere there. There were even suggestions of rewards for OGs helping newbies out. Implicitly, it’s like discord has been treated as a place to market the product. A place to build up hype and optimism.
However, I’m not sure whether that was ever an official strategy or one that the old forum folks felt aligned with. I feel some want to be just as straight and honest on Discord as they are on the forum. They don’t want to be seen as cheerleading and hyping, etc.
So, maybe that is something to consider. Perhaps it was expected that the community would happily play the role of marketeers on Discord too? Maybe that was taken for granted in fact?
I admit that I self censor on Discord for the above reasons. It feels like the forum is the place for more raw honesty. Even then, it can feel self destructive, if care is not taken.
I’m not sure how that is ‘fixed’ as such, but just writing my thoughts down. Maybe the intention of Discord as more of a marketing window could have been made clearer for those who don’t like to read between lines? Maybe we should always at least have the forum as a place to be frank too?
Food for thought.
Yeah - what happened to that?
Kinda like the helpdesk/ticketing system that was promised to appear…
Something I should have made more noise about but didn’t cos it just seemed so bleedin obvious…
And now when people raise concerns on Discord and in here in an unstructured way, its taken as criticism - when most of it [c|sh]ould be dealt with via a ticket.
Its not as if there are no FOSS ticketing systems available and we don’t have experienced support peeps here already in the community…
I miss the @Bux style time estimates - they may not always have been 100% correct but at least it gave a feeling of this becoming real
If nobody dares to give a time estimate it’s not gonna be ‘soon’…
Maybe we weren’t helpful enough?
@rusty.spork is helpful!
