is the crossroads show coming back? i used to really enjoy those.
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Thanks! The landscape has changed a lot. Haven’t figured it all out yet, but I’m still considering it.
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well you sir have a gift that only us old timers have enjoyed. I would definitely tune in if you do.
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Maybe I’m wrong as I’m a CLI guy and never actually ran Dave, but my understanding was that it wasn’t a browser, but a GUI for performing actions on the network (browsing your files, uploading/downloading). I thought it was supposed to be a cloud storage interface like a OneDrive or Dropbox type functionality.
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Something seriously amiss with ‘ant file cost’
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A 30Mb file will consume up to 20% CPU (Mac M4) …take 10 minutes and succeed.
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A 3GB file will consume >100% CPU the entire time, consume 4GB of memory, crash browser tabs and take over 10 minutes to fail with:
0: Failed to calculate cost for file
1: Cost error: Not enough node quotes for e2ba00(11100010)…, got: 4 and need at least 5
2: Not enough node quotes for e2ba00(11100010)…, got: 4 and need at least 5
Location:
ant-cli/src/commands/file.rs:28
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Data permanence has not been declared yet.
I think it would be helpful to have a sort of table, or comparison list, where would be one column for the network as it is planned, and another informing where we are now.
Also, while I agree with @dirvine, that it actually should not be Maidsafe’s business who is running the nodes, I think they should still somehow try to follow other parameters of centralization.
Also, while our decentralization might not ever be “perfect”, I think it should have good chances to be better than other systems. Some methods of quantification would be nice to show this.
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Great update, thank you 
Is there an issue with quotes at the moment, the last few days there are many “pay for quotes” transactions going through on the blockchain, where there are some really high values being payed to addresses, that are from what I’m seeing being scraped ?
example block is Arbitrum One Transaction Hash (Txhash) Details | Arbitrum One
transaction : 0xb82fb02c0d1cb1e1c030b43cd456c849fad32661680b66cd3f8236e75d7c42e9
Why were most nodes paid 0.385 ant ? (again that seems high given nearly 10 million nodes)
and some are being paid 44ant and 66ant ? are these random rewards ? it’s not very clear having them merged with same function ?
Sorry for asking, but I can’t find information on this - I’m writing a dashboard to help people track the ant’s they earnt from nodes, and I want to know if this is how I’m meant to pickup a random reward ? i.e. look for a transaction many magnitude higher than any others…
Thanks
Jad
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Dave is only for uploading/downloading private data, like dropbox, afaik. I struggled to upload due to known issues.
AntTP is intended to bridge the gap between regular browsers and Autonom Network. We can then create rich web applications without reinventing the browser wheel.
Maybe there will be further projects for tighter browser integration, e.g. through plugins, dedicated browsers, etc. In the interim, we can expose API behavior through standard HTTP calls, much like a regular web app would expect.
For example, you could POST to /v1/archive/ with a multipart file payload to create a new archive. Likewise, you could GET /v1/archive/ to retrieve PUT /v1/archive/ to amend an archive, etc. Same for graphs, pointers, etc. Just need a set of endpoints for each data type.
AntTP hasn’t implemented the above yet and has only been concerned with file/archive downloads. However, I want to add these features (time/funds permitting).
I know there was an attempt to provide some of these features through native javascript within the custom browser in the past. While that may provide a more integrated dev experience, REST calls are straightforward and are well supported by dev frameworks (angular, react, etc).
So, I’d suggest even a native browser provides access to rest calls for these features and integrates a web proxy to begin with. If pure javascript integration is desirable, it can be added later, imo.
Anyway, small post turned big… it’s an area that needs autonomi product input tbh, to ensure long term goals align.
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That is the random rewards.
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ah thanks, so is there anything specific I can look for in a transaction to identify it as a random reward ? there all going through as “quotes” at the moment ? It’s not practical to scan the entire block chain for the ant contract and pass each one - also what do I look for ?
Was that entire transaction a random reward then ? Is there anything documented you can point me at on how this emission is meant to work ? what does a node have to do to be selected etc ?
Sorry not trying to troll - I understood the Beta way, if you node had earned in that 24 hours, then it was put in the pool for a random reward ? Is that still the way were doing it ?
Jad
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random rewards are quotes only and I thought the pay for quotes was only for random rewards and upcoming emissions.
I could be wrong.
Chunk payments are real small at the moment and will not be as large as the random rewards and they occur at any time of he day and not around the 2 payment periods that random rewards occur at (approx 4am & 4pm UTC)
Also the random rewards are paid from the one address so you can select or exclude that address
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Now you can connect many nodes to one address which increases chances/earnings per address. Before during Beta you ran many addresses instead because that was based on addresses which earned during 24h.
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That would seem to be a reasonable assumption, but of course not guaranteed
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I thought the random rewards are the emissions, am I wrong?
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No I don’t.
I have not gone into it yet. Prob set in the contract to have those descriptors.
Its all a bit confusing.
Jim previously said multiple times that until the network is announced to be persistent that emissions would not exist but a substitute rewards (random rewards) would exist.
Then in one post today he referred to them as emissions. Its quite possible that was a slip of the tongue since emissions are going to be done using a similar method now.
So they are almost the same thing, but just which bag they come from
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Well Jim has now come out in discord and saying they are not random rewards but in fact are emissions. Do not know when they decided to change that but it is official now. They are in fact emissions
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Is it possible to estimate how fast the emissons are depleted, runrate?
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They are on a 50 year run
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Sorry, not my wheelhouse I’m afraid!
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I think this has recently been reduced to 12 years based on new analysis shown in v2 of the Whitepaper.
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