Update 13th November, 2025

[Josh]

You mean that in a critical way?

David was neck deep in this for incredibly long. I have a good 2 months in me before I get bored and need new stimulation.

Granted, I have been here for a really long time, saying that, the only small criticism I would levy on David is that he left this community of people who supported him for many many years.

I get there are strong opinions being thrown about. But all of them come from a good place, I think.
Robust community needs a strong variety of ideas.

Ironically, I believe, opposition to emissions was the last conversation had here.

Look where we find ourselves today.

[JimCollinson]

@Josh

I get there are strong opinions being thrown about. But all of them come from a good place, I think.
Robust community needs a strong variety of ideas.

I agree with the sentiment… but I would also just like to point out that things have on the forum veered into personal attacks on maidsafe team members (with some frequency), and this can really blow up the good-faith vibes and collaborative nature of the discussion. This isn’t always in the public threads.

It takes a toll.

There is so much to be done, and life is too short to be expending the energy battling through that, so it can be more productive and healthy to tap out, and get busy in the code.

[scottefc86]

@JimCollinson

This isn’t always in the public threads.

Well this explains a lot to me as someone who visits the forum on a daily basis as most of the ‘OG’s’ are usually amicable in their disagreements with the team in public.

[Dimitar]

@JimCollinson

This isn’t always in the public threads.

I get cursed at and insulted regularly in private messages, one player even registered the email I had listed in my forum profile on LGBTQ+ sites to “punish” me. I don’t mind, if they know your name they’ll hate you, you can’t please everyone Jim!

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[Josh]

@JimCollinson

things have on the forum veered into personal attacks on maidsafe team members (with some frequency), and this can really blow up the good-faith vibes and collaborative nature of the discussion.

Agreed.

I am concerned that it is a larger loss to the project than meets the eye.

There are many helpful and knowledgeable people here, it is a far superior platform for helping new people, searching for info, finding topics of interest, everything gets lost and requires far more repetition on Discord.
As user numbers scale Discord becomes mayhem.

Unfortunately it seems that there is a effort to isolate new users from the forum. (example: extending the update on Discord in such a way that visiting the forum becomes less likely)

Does it not make sense to engage with the mods here and fix the issues instead of losing something valuable?

Thanks to those of you who do still come here despite obviously feeling that it is not as hospitable as it should be.

[Profess]

I completely agree with you, but when you take on a project like Autonomi, you need to have thick skin and be ready for numerous attacks, including from hostile or unreasonable people.

There is a saying: “The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.”,Does it really impress you that a few Yorkies are tugging at your trouser leg? You can always darken them

[scottefc86]

Or sign them up to some LGBTQDVD+ sites

[BearHand]

Node Running (Data Hosting)

• Researched and implemented initial features for automatic node upgrades and self-restart capabilities, with CI tests across major OS platforms.

meaning no RISC-V allowed? Since official not supported, and most of the router using RISC-V. I can make my own core for running antnode. And I have made a card size mini computer with ram and ssd on it, just plus&play on motherboard. I am not sure if you can see those nodes are running great on the net. No need to bother me from using the PC. If no self compile is available and require auto update. 5k nodes may no longer work. Please advise and I stop soldering those unfinished boards. Thank you.

[AlekseySolin]

@JimCollinson

@Josh

I get there are strong opinions being thrown about. But all of them come from a good place, I think.
Robust community needs a strong variety of ideas.

I agree with the sentiment… but I would also just like to point out that things have on the forum veered into personal attacks on maidsafe team members (with some frequency), and this can really blow up the good-faith vibes and collaborative nature of the discussion. This isn’t always in the public threads.

It takes a toll.

There is so much to be done, and life is too short to be expending the energy battling through that, so it can be more productive and healthy to tap out, and get busy in the code.

I think the team needs an experienced facilitator and crisis PR specialist who can direct any energetic debates into a constructive direction and help the parties constructively formulate arguments, identify common ground between opinions, and outline possible compromises, without allowing the discussion to turn into a squabble with personal attacks.

[Southside]

I think the team needs fewer long-term folk who are simply determined to moan and infer malfeasance upon David and other team members instead of actually contributing something, anything to move the project further.

Last year David was recovering form cancer from which he was only given a 10% chance of survival. Is it any wonder that he decided he has better things to do than respond to the every little quibble raised by the doommongers, naysayers and those whose Lambo has been delayed? Despite their very vocal cries that this is not the case at all, at all, no sir and all they want is the sweet pure clarity of what was envisaged in 2015 - implemented now in 2025 when the whole landscape is very different.

Some folk on here need to get real and realise the world does NOT revolve around them and the utterly impractical solutions they would impose on us in the name of Stallman-esque “purity”. The TLAs are NOT interested.

[TheGreatTit]

I attempted about four times to respond to your thick-layered strawman in a respectful manner, and it’s impossible.

EDIT: I had to remind myself it’s not David or the team who use the illness-recovery as a way of arguing anything. It’s just that neanderthal.

[Southside]

I had to remind myself that you are simply a tit and not worth replying to.

Bye now.

[AlekseySolin]

@BearHand

And I have made a card size mini computer with ram and ssd on it, just plus&play on motherboard.

It’s very interesting! Will you show your creation, it would be very interesting to see it?

[Southside]

Please keep soldering - We can write all the code that Claude advises us to but without boards and components, its nothing.

[BearHand]

It’s quite simple, just use pcie as power, 6W, ltc3877, 1 mosfet, 1 16GB lpddr4x, 1 usb 3.0 to m2 pcie3.0. Cost around £50, and actually you can buy an sbc that’s already did the same. I am waiting new cpu should release around June, 2026. It’s now just poc. Nothing going to show here, cuz people loves copying. Besides, if code changed to somehow not gonna let me compile my own code/version to make it work, anything should be ended.

I do have another version that using risc-v as router act like a pi-hole, with openwrt(self compile) with 4 antnode boards running on it, cheaper than buying a branded router. QoS, still fine, like 5% cpu load. if I run 300nodes on a basic router, like the eero, the latency is way way higher like over 200ms+, it’s now 7k nodes on this router, still nothing over 10% load, some are Pi(ARM), but antnode not running great with ARM arch, loads of issues. So now I mainly adding RISC-V, cheap, however each time they release new version, I need to code diff and compile a version that can run on riscv arch. If they require official one/ota upgrade, it will be a dead end.

If anyone need the antnode binary that can run on Riscv, I can provide. But not all Riscv the same, just let me know the isa that your cpu support, I can make one, the compilation time is really really long, 7hrs. Sometimes, bugs and errors cost me 2-3days. Another hell hole if they continue releasing antnode upgrade.

The original plan is ARM arch, however custom ARM cpu runs terrible with antnode, honestly quite buggy. Each time they released new version, long compilation time, emission stopped at previous versions, drives me nut. Now I basically give up the ARM arch to RISCV, if they change, everything goes to junk, again.

I do have investor at first, due to unfairness from the emission(always got lower), the Riscv antnode board delayed and made early October(original September) due to low funding. New Riscv board another model that can handle 8 times more antnode, less than half power consumption should release in Jan 2026, now they gone. Now the data lost issue, I don’t think there will be investor interested. The concept is an offloader that doesn’t need to care much, just plug it in, let it run. Doesn’t slow down your pc, still able to gaming, working, still able to receive some tokens. The latest ideas that the cpu support NUMA, multi cpu on the same board, really tailor made for running antnode, near unlimited GB ddr4 can plug it in. Already no hope, I don’t think there will be an investor coming out. £0.05/token yes, now definitely a no.

[zettawatt]

Sounds like a very interesting project! Nice work!

The code is open source and always will be. You may not be able to participate in the OTA updates being on an unsupported architecture (for now, maybe MaidSafe could add it?), but there is no reason you couldn’t compile it yourself, just like you are already doing. From what I understood in the update they’re looking into the automatic upgrades as a convenience to node runners operating on more standard architectures.

Sorry to hear the token price has got you down. Its a pretty sad situation right now.

[DavidMc0]

@BearHand

I do have another version that using risc-v as router act like a pi-hole, with openwrt(self compile) with 4 antnode boards running on it, cheaper than buying a branded router

I love the idea of an Autonomi focused home router with the ability to run nodes, handle backups / sync (e.g. using something like Ryyn), plus other privacy focused features.

I think Autonomi focused hardware can play a significant role in the future ecosystem, and I’d like to be an investor in this kind of thing, along with many others I’m sure… if the token price allows

Sounds like interesting concepts, and I look forward to seeing how it develops.

[BearHand]

I do think they would do a push ota upgrade to the node. Of course self compile would works, however while they are not supported the arch, the push upgrade will not work or crash my things up. And you never know when will they do the push upgrade as always. Although they notify you, you are not always at their time zone🤷🏻‍♂️or checking their updates often, even finding a free timeslot for self compilation. They stop all the thing in tight schedule, they care majority rather than small nodes operators.

If I am complaining, there are more, like the disk consumption is high. If you use NAS, it should work, so running a cluster on the network using NAS for the space, the local network gonna down, since the disk operation consumption is high, around 20~30MB/s per k nodes, how much giga lan network can support? Even a usb3.0 can at least split it up to 4 giga lan, the cpu from the NAS gonna down. So the ssd only works on board, not NAS. Quite meaningless, if you try you will know.

[Secretariat415]

Thanks so much to the entire Autonomi team and our community volunteers for all of your hard work!

Our team and community are the best!

[BearHand]

The most problem with antnode operators is that, if you run antnode, you lost your computer for doing other stuffs, like gaming even surfing the net. And saying you can run launchpad for 50 nodes, not even a penny return and lost 1.7TB? So an offloading solution is needed here. Do it on router that run 24/7 without affecting the user, low power consumption at all. Building the board not even high cost, openwrt, QoS, even jellyfin, Adblock. A router with 4 of these board, less than 30W, running 2k nodes! Peace of mind! However, antnode upgrade! Bloody hell!

Just asking, who use that launchpad? Anyone?So the use case failed.