Some light relief a chat with Taco: What could go wrong... (Bux & Taco in conversation

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Here’s a summary of the conversation between Taco and Bux, focusing on key points and themes:

Introduction and Setting:

Taco and Bux engage in a casual, light-hearted conversation, emphasizing their camaraderie and shared experiences. The discussion is informal, reflecting on past collaborations and personal anecdotes, creating a relaxed atmosphere for their audience.

Weather and Sentiment:

The conversation begins with a humorous exchange about the weather, highlighting the unusual sunny spell in the UK and contrasting it with the rainy conditions in Massachusetts. This sets a playful tone, with Bux and Taco joking about the sensationalism of weather reporting and the possibility of weather manipulation.

Market and Predictions:

Bux and Taco delve into discussions about market trends, particularly in the crypto space. Taco humorously predicts a market upturn based on positive thinking, showcasing their shared interest in Web3 and digital currencies. They reflect on their experiences in the industry, noting the challenges and unpredictability of the market.

Community and Collaboration:

The duo reminisces about their time working together in high-pressure environments, emphasizing the importance of community and collaboration. They discuss the value of genuine connections and the impact of supportive networks in navigating the complexities of the tech and crypto industries.

Entertainment and Pop Culture:

Bux and Taco touch on various entertainment topics, including the Minecraft movie and the cultural phenomenon of The Simpsons. They share personal insights and humorous takes on these subjects, reflecting their diverse interests and the eclectic nature of their conversation.

Future and Opportunities:

The discussion shifts to future opportunities, with Taco sharing his current status as “out of contract” and exploring new ventures. Bux offers encouragement and insights into the evolving landscape of Web3, emphasizing the potential for innovation and growth in decentralized platforms like Autonomi.

Autonomi and Impossible Futures:

Bux highlights the Autonomi platform and the Impossible Futures initiative, inviting creatives and developers to explore opportunities for innovation. She underscores the platform’s decentralized nature and the financial incentives available for promising projects, advocating for a future where creators can thrive without traditional constraints.

Conclusion and Community Engagement:

The conversation concludes with a call to action for the audience to engage with Autonomi and explore the possibilities it offers. Bux and Taco express gratitude for their community, inviting listeners to connect and collaborate on future projects.

In summary, the conversation between Taco and Bux is a blend of humor, personal reflection, and strategic insights, offering a glimpse into their dynamic partnership and shared vision for a decentralized future.

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Part 2 AI Transcript of the conversation continued…
Bux: A very good question. And because Yellowstone, do you remember with Yellowstone, there was a big reinsurgence.

of health into the ecosystem when they reintroduced wolves and it’s an interesting thing right because

In technology specifically, we talk about things and David Irvine, if you haven’t caught up on the space, it’s a bit of a plug that I did with David.

Friday last week do go and listen to that if you’ve got a minute like he’s one of the most

He’s an incredible human being and one of the most intelligent but accessible people I’ve ever met.

And he talks about…

you know ants and simplicity and nature and how you genuinely scale things right but

So speaking from an ecosystem point of view, the more complicated an ecosystem is, generally the healthier it is.

So if you remove a predator.

things get thrown out of balance.

So they put walls back into Yellowstone

and even the rivers benefited.

And that sounds really odd, but…

It’s because beavers came back and they started doing dams and the beavers were there because other creatures were there and so on and so forth.

I wonder, dire wars haven’t been around for thousands of years.

I’m just at this point.

I feel like we’re adding.

Not like an element of complexity into an ecosystem that maybe is a good thing.

It might just completely eradicate.

all of the other wolves I don’t know I don’t know I don’t know how like big these things get

so I it’s a good question I don’t

think that they’re planning on putting saddles on them or, you know,

going attacking, you know, an Iceman or a lady that rides dragons.

Taco: them though i don’t think that’s the plan well listen the company that did this it obviously

takes a lot of

Money to make it happen. So there has to be way to monetize it

Well, if it wasn’t selling 70 pets, then what are we doing with it?

Bux: Well, the conspiracy theory is and conspiracy theory.

are boring because seven in ten of them back some random stats on the spot but um a lot of them are

you know found out to be in an element or two of truth in them but they’re saying they will

never do this to human beings but they’re not

saying that they’re not adverse to selling.

certain parts of their technology for other people to start developing things off the back of what they’ve done.

at a cost so that’s their commercialization model which is a bit scary you like that you want to be

like

Like half something else or?

Taco: Well, it just makes sense.

Like, guys, we have the technology.

We brought back dire wolves.

You guys do what you want.

We’re not going to.

make you into a crazy fun hybrid.

But if you want to do it on your own, we’ll sell you the text.

Bux: Yeah, hang on a minute.

Like, this is like, have you ever read Brave New World, Huxley?

Have you ever read that?

Yeah.

Okay, we don’t want that.

We don’t want, do we?

Like, well, maybe you do.

Maybe you think that’s cool.

bionic man or like person that can just be bred in a lab

Taco: I’m not opposed to it.

I think I think we should have we should have that conversation. Yes. If you could give me bionics right now, I would take the bio.

right now

Bux: Hmm. You’re not planning on going for any government or leadership position anytime soon, are you? I’m just just checking.

Taco: I’m not. Well, you listed my qualifications earlier and they’re not.

They’re not what I would call transferable skills.

Bux: Oh, I don’t know.

You’ve got more qualifications than most people in the UK Parliament, I’m going to be honest.

Taco: To run the government agency that deals with…

bionics i don’t i’m not sure although i don’t know i can i present as very confident so who’s

Bux: We’re going to get back on track now.

What would you…

So stop worrying about the dire wars.

We don’t know.

We’ll go and look up what they’re going to do with them.

And what would you bring back that’s gone extinct?

Taco: Yeah, this is an easy one for me. It’s the dodo bird, but just because I want to eat their eggs.

the rest of the knowing, like if I make a Dodo Burdick Amma, what does that feel like?

Bux: Why do I feel like this is going to lead to Waffle House, Teko?

Taco: You said it, not me.

I didn’t bring up any kind of.

Bux: anything it’s a risky place isn’t it you know Waffle House at one in the morning it’s it could

be a nightmare

Taco: could be magic it’s it’s we’re we’re having we’re having an egg shortage right now in the u.s

Bux: Well, that’s because you killed all the chickens because of bird flu.

Is that right?

Taco: Yeah, but if we had dodo birds, then we’d be fine.

We’d have a whole other source of eggs.

And they’re probably huge.

Dodo birds were what, like 50?

They were enormous.

Bux: Yeah, very slow, which is why they were made extinct, right?

Because they were easy to catch up.

Taco: Yeah, one egg could feed a family of four.

Bux: OK, that’s that that does feel like quite an efficient answer, to be honest with you.

So we talked about, and this will be my last question, and then if anybody wants to come up and have a quick chat, because I am aware that we’re on 30 minutes.

Like one of us hasn’t stopped talking.

Taco.

But my last question to you, I’ve mentioned this a couple of times, and this is a bit of a shameless taco plug.

You are currently…

Not working for anybody.

Obviously, you’re dedicated to your podcast craft with Hutch,

and that’s incredibly important.

But do you want to –

want to give us a little bit of a story on that um what what’s happening in the world of of taco

Taco: Well, I’ve been saying that I’m out of contract, which feels a lot more Web3.

than saying unemployed that unemployed sounds bad out of contract says sounds i think that sounds

Bux: I’m available.

Taco: Yeah, I’m available, but also we’re just having a little fun.

Bux: Yeah, selectively available.

Taco: Yeah, I’m selectively available is exactly right.

So my last contract ran out with my prior.

company. Um, I haven’t been really looking in a way that, um,

I’m okay right now.

Just kind of hanging out a little bit.

I’ve been helping out the guys at Short Fuse.

They’re great.

Bux: How are you just hanging out?

You are terrible.

In Web3 at Making Money, you don’t sell anything.

You’re just going to like, you just like riding the high of savings or something.

Is that your, is that your plan?

Or have you turned into a trader and I didn’t know about this?

How are you justifying not needing to have a job?

Taco: just just curious as we discussed earlier i am employing the art of um

positive thinking fucks like it’s fine and something is

So something is going to pop up. Right. Maybe it’s just my overconfidence in me that thinks like someone’s just going to be like, hey, here’s an amazing.

opportunity you’d be a great fit for because of XYZ right

And in the meantime, I’m helping out the Short Views guys as they’re building their new venture, which is great.

Bux: That’s super cool.

Taco: Yeah, we’re we’re just having some fun out here crypto line is doing some stuff. I’m talking to him about

I don’t know. I looked at a couple of web two opportunities just because I thought it’d be.

irresponsible not to and it looks horrible do you

Do you think once you’ve lived in Web 3, like once you’re in it, can you go back to?

i don’t want to say real life but real life could i work for like a normal company again

Bux: Oh, so I’ve got a couple of layers to answer that.

Number one.

is again from the spaces that i did with david on friday somebody uh somebody it was me

it was only me and david on the spaces

been a really long week so far um but we were talking about web

you know, 2.0 and Web3 and Web4. And he was like,

we haven’t even had the real version of the internet as we should have had it yet.

And it’s not even that companies are gatekeeping it.

We just haven’t had it.

And that’s what he’s desperate to unlock for everybody.

It’s not about Web 2, Web 3.

It’s just about this evangelism of what digital can really do

if you let all the restrictions.

off and just let the humans at it um so i think i i really kind of

Not shied away from Web 3, but.

Like, I went back, but I went kind of back in another way, I felt, with, you know, our previous employer.

They had all of the elements they needed.

to absolute even when it was just games to blow the doors off that um event we had in vegas

The energy, the.

The support, the belief, the opportunity, like everything was there, even the talent.

I remember like.

Every other week there was, you know, obviously I kind of got.

I wasn’t in the games team after a while.

Every other week, when I was sitting as COO of Gala, which was the role I was employed to do at the beginning of Gala Games.

You know, there was always a contract discussion.

There was always a new group of developers.

There was, you know, and it was really hard at the beginning to get people interested.

but after a few months like people kind of got on board with it and wanted to do something

and then what I

kind of realized and I think you much later than me um my my hand was obviously forced a bit but

Even with all the right things, it’s still…

didn’t end up what it could have been and I think it’s because from my and this is just

personal opinion and it’s not really specific to

to that world but the fundamentals that we were building with were still like a little bit

patched together and broken and you still had individuals and self-interest and you know the

short

comings of a strategy or a person at the center of it and that’s why like web3

could never really get out of its own way.

A game could never really be a success.

And if you think about the…

like the cost for development, but then you have people that, I mean, look at the passion.

behind some of the games that were being developed in The Belief.

And so that’s kind of why I took a big step.

down in every way um and kind of went into the the sort of the real networking side because i was

like i’d love

I love the entertainment bit. I love human beings coming together. I love all of the community aspects.

creators and developers are the people that inspire me the most.

And I’m sick to death of them getting walked over and them getting exploited by.

the people in charge, right? So that’s kind of why Web3 got me in the first place.

But then you realize like if they’re building on a on a system that’s just fundamentally flawed, it doesn’t really matter because at some point the music is.

quite literally going to stop. It’s not going to work. And so I kind of went down into the depths of it because

I can’t do all the stuff that I really love, which is the stuff I’m probably better at, which is, you know, all that entertainment.

like fun social stuff similar to you unless I’ve got something

that actually works at the bottom to build on.

And so I’m not out of my depth with the people that I’m working with in the community, the new community I’m getting to know, but they are.

They are a different level in terms of understanding journey technology than I will ever be at.

But without those people, the new internet and the new possibilities

and the new way to earn just won’t exist because there’s too much.

many greedy people in control that are just going to keep shutting folks out and so

That’s a really like serious answer to can you ever go back?

I had to go back because I had to for my own.

sense of self and what, who I am.

to be able to then fix stuff to then go forward,

because we made some massive mistakes with what we did previously.

Because we were riding on hope and we were riding on faith.

And you don’t make plans on that stuff.

You have to go back to basics and put the plan.

in and do it properly. And so that’s why I’ve kind of done it.

Do I think you are ever going to suit an office environment?

No, I don’t.

I don’t think maybe that’s your jam.

I think there’s so much more.

on the horizon

than there is

in the rear view mirror

for you

and I’m hoping

like if anybody

listened to this space

and

hears you and how personable you are and the journey you’ve been on that opportunities will come

They will, like, appear and come clear for you.

And obviously, if there’s anything in my world, then, you know, I’ll.

You won’t be 12 on the email chain like I was with Hutch, let’s put it that way.

I don’t think you can go back.

I think we always have to go forward.

And the real world, we’re all in the matrix anyway, right?

Like, what is the real world?

construct according to who you are and what you believe anyway, right? So you’ve got to

build a world that works for you, which is where I go back.

to my like eclectic collection of ideas and thoughts thank you for coming to my TED talk

Taco: You had asked how I can feel good about not being super employed right now.

And it’s, it’s that like, what even is life?

even real. So what difference does it make if I’m working or not?

Bux: As long as you can look after the people that matter and cover your bills and stay healthy, then everything else is a plus, right?

Taco: And Mrs. Taco couldn’t even be bothered to.

come listen to this space and so okay but she’s not going to get paid

Bux: to to do that right she might be doing something else

you know maybe yeah fine fine all right does anybody want to come up

and say hello, or should we cut it? We have been talking for 38 minutes flat, and I started fast.

If this wasn’t a disaster, we could do it again until Taco has a real job.

of it um actually his his day job is now the podcast so i wouldn’t ever want to distract

from that so if you’re

Not following, you should have dialed in as 40-year-old degens

because then they could have just clicked you.

But if you go to TACO.

to hutch i think it’s all friends in here anyway and you can follow them and find 40 year old degens

And I would just be interested in what.

Other people in the space are up to now, like Satoshi and Lava and Captain Kirk’s here.

Metaflora’s here, Sean, like CryptoJZ, like so many of you, if there’s anything we can ever do to help.

be around to support all that kind of stuff let us know there is a thing um

Autonomy is running through its foundation called Impossible Futures, which is.

Basically learning how to use, you can think of autonomy as the better AWS because it’s decentralized.

Owned by no one, run by everybody. And there is no central authority. There’s no company that owns it, runs it, is going to do.

stuff to it um

And so you can interact with it in a couple of ways very soon.

One, you can build something and use it.

you know, and use autonomy for storage.

If you come up with a proof of concept that gets accepted into voting,

you get to.

250 bucks it’s a two-week thing if it goes through through community vote you get 500 bucks

and there is then once you’re into that second phase there’s a prize pool it’s like it’s a hundred

thousand dollars

As in USDC, it’s stable coin because we know creatives and developers need actual cash to pay people.

other way you can get involved is if you pick a project and it does well or you back it you can

also access

the surprise pools and you get, and again, there’s a US dollar element to that for the

same reason, but you can also get more.

back the new

pledge against different projects you’re supporting. So there’s a couple of different

ways to get involved in that. So I know you guys are.

pretty creative so if you’ve got um any inspiration or concepts or stuff that can that have any

type of hosting requirement in terms of storage, it’s worth just going and having a look at

impossible-futures.com.

com

So there you go. There’s my plug for there’s some money there. There’s some grants. You don’t have to do anything in terms of there’s no whiz.

sign-ups or terms and conditions.

Nobody owns it.

There’s no middlemen.

There’s no company.

So, yeah, go and check that out.

Anything else, Taka, or should we call it an end?

Taco: That was an excellent plug.

Bux: It’s easy to plug something when you’re not selling something, right?

You’re literally saying, I would like to change the internet.

I would like to.

to build something on autonomy too.

That’s my game plan.

And there’s a couple of things

that I’m working on,

but because of the delays of…

getting autonomy live, I haven’t really progressed with that because you have to get the base

ready first, right, before you can build on it.

you guys know I love music you know I love film um there’s a really cool um other idea and

If you’ve been around me and you’re connected to me in any way, shape or form, I will make sure that you’ve got the opportunity to get involved.

for $0 as well, like I did with Autonomy, where you can come and run nodes.

There’s no downside to you all.

owe you guys that um because you’ve you’ve hung out with me for for a while one way or another so

um

Yeah. And you’re supporting good people. And there’s some amazing developers over in the autonomy community as well.

They’re really technical, clever people.

And so if you’ve got ideas and things, if you head over to…

to Autonomy’s Discord, which you can find in, you know, if you look at my profile, you’ll see the X account for it.

they they’ll help you they’ll they’ll work with you they’ll support you

uh and we’re trying to get the peer-to-peer thing going because i don’t

think you need a middle person all the time you just need the creator and the coder together often

and magical things can happen. So yeah, do go check it out.

sorry um do a do a picture for sure d jones before we wrap up and then we can do 45 minutes on the

nose

Taco: Well, 40-Year-Old Degens is now in the audience. Go click and follow that. I co-host it.

with Hutch, who many of you know.

It’s two old friends talking about Web3,

but also, honestly, it’s mostly breakfast.

But we have a good time, and we have a Discord if you want to join, where you can submit questions for the podcast.

Otherwise, I will literally just talk about breakfast the whole time.

Also, Short Feast Games is in the audience.

give them a follow uh a lot of you know those guys they had worked um on the vox team um and are now

They just started their own studio and they’re doing some really fun,

different stuff and they care about community, which is what I care about.

Bux: Amazing. Can we just, can we give an extra shout out just to make him super self-conscious to HB, who’s just shown up.

as we’re wrapping up so you’re going to have to listen back to the recording

I love that you’re here and and if anybody happens

to run into Rob H say where were you um because yeah it doesn’t feel like a spaces without Rob

creating trouble

Taco: Yeah, you can say the same thing if you run into other Taco who said he was going to be here and then didn’t show up, even though he’s in Paris right now.

Bux: Is he in Paris?

Yeah.

Okay, well, we’ve got 8-Bit, so that’s the result.

I wasn’t sure if 8-Bit was going to show up.

Ali shows up to…

everything she’s amazing everything she’s amazing yeah so musician

um a writer a singer an awesome mother as well i see pictures of a kid all the time it just melts

me um and yeah

You’re the reason why people like CryptoLion and stuff I know hang around and lava to try and improve.

the world for musicians going forward, because being creative is very close to making us human,

right?

Uh, for sure.

So.

Nice one. Well, it’s 45 minutes of shooting the breeze with Bucks and Taco. Taco, thank you for.

answering my questions. I think my world is a little more.

light than it was before so thanks for that

Taco: Oh, it’s always my pleasure, Bucks.

Hopefully we can do this again someday.

Bux: Someday.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

See you guys.

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Bux: Thank goodness you joined.

I was just playing really,

I said I was going to start it with some music.

I didn’t intend to put.

dodgy jazz music on to start that’s a good way to kick off hello taco

Taco: Hey, I was just about to ask, what in the hell was that?

Bux: I don’t know you know when you just push a button and hope for the best so I was like oh yeah music

that sounds great and then it was almost like we were going to go into

some I don’t know OnlyFans type thing but with more class I don’t know I’m sorry anyway you’re

here it’s fine

Taco: Yeah, and I’m all about whatever classy OnlyFans is.

Bux: Look, let’s not descend into talking about feet.

Rob’s not even here, so we can’t talk about that.

um but we’ll save it for him hopefully he’ll oh my goodness this has been recorded as well um

Just to caveat for anybody listening to this on record, this is really for.

A certain group of people who know each other pretty well and therefore is just.

It’s a bit of mates and friends getting together.

So please, if you want some serious insight on.

Pretty much anything.

If you see Taco’s name.

Be assured you’re not going to get that, particularly if you then see my name next to his.

Honest faces. So just this is not going to be something that’s going to enlighten your life in any other way than.

possibly for amusement.

I’m British, for most of you who know that, and the accent will give it away if you didn’t.

So we’re going to start talking about the weather, Taco, because something truly rare is happening in the UK.

Eight days in a row now.

We’ve had sunshine, like unbroken sunshine, for eight consecutive days.

Normally we would get eight days over the…

course of the entire summer, we’ve had them like back to back. People are smiling. They’re

going out for walks. They’re sitting in gardens.

it’s unreal and talking of unreal the press uh the british press are referring to

to it as a scorching blast, which.

It’s a little bit disappointing because sensationalism was never something that Brits were.

that good at and while I’m like quite proud that they’ve got some enthusiasm around this

It’s not really justified because we’re sitting at around 17 to 22 degrees, which in your land.

is about 60 Fahrenheit, so to say that we’re having a scorching blast.

is somewhat of an exaggeration, or maybe wishful thinking, I don’t know.

So my question to you, just to kick off a conversation as we shoot the breeze is.

You having some nice weather and do you think people in America?

um I said that like I was about five in America um do you think people in America

are playing with the weather?

Do you think there’s something going on with the weather?

I’m interested to know.

Taco: First of all, I love that you didn’t even open this space with like a, hey, everybody.

share this out or hey we’re gonna give it a minute to let people come in

bam i’m just gonna talk for five

Bux: bit of strength you remember me hi i’m bucks remember no you’re absolutely right and i’m

Taco: I’m a little torn because you opened with.

You saw Taco’s name, so you understand this is probably going to be a disaster.

And a part of me.

feels mildly offended but then there’s another part of me that’s just like

i’m just resigned to knowing like yeah

It probably is going to be a disaster.

Bux: Tucker, we’ve worked together for…

quite a long time at quite through some of the most and I’m not ashamed to admit

we’ll probably get into this as the conversation goes on and we

we bring some of our friends into chat because we should have it.

It’s just our mates getting together and having a,

having a chat whether we should keep recording.

it on that basis I don’t know but we went through some of the most stressful high pressured and at

the same time

motivating yet demoralizing situations together.

It’s fair to say, you know, you’ve been forged and ironed, but what’s come out?

Well, I’m not sure it’s always that pointed, having this.

Taco: you know what that’s fair it broke me maybe and now here i am oh kareem’s on here as well

Bux: look all off

friends jeff’s here crypto alliance here 8-bit tendies is here see you’re the people rachie’s here

Sam

jill’s here crypto like all of you you’re just our mates it’s so nice because we actually

and sorry to be so presumptuous

But like.

I feel like I know you all because I did get to know you all.

So, yeah, it’s nice to hang out.

Anyway, Taco, we’re getting derailed already.

We can have time to bring, you know, people up afterwards to have a little chat and gossip and ask some questions.

But can you please answer my question?

which is um can we can we please get back on track yes

how’s the weather and is it artificial or not question so okay first of all

Taco: This is interesting, because where I am in Massachusetts, in the North…

Bux: I always get nervous when you pre-empt something telling me it’s going to be interesting.

Taco: interesting carry on because it’s not actually interesting it’s interesting to me

Where I am right now, it’s supposed to be sunny, but it’s been raining for like eight days straight, which is making us.

all very sad.

So it’s nice to know somebody else is at least getting that sunny weather.

You’re getting the good part of global warming and I’m getting.

the bad part. I can neither confirm nor deny that we’re controlling.

Bux: the weather i didn’t i didn’t mean like i didn’t mean you personally or america is a holistic

thing. I just meant that there is a lot of things around. I don’t know,

maybe it’s my algorithms. I’ve got some really weird algorithms. Like I try.

I like finance.

I like…

Web3. I like tech. And yet I’m just full of politics, even your politics, which.

You know, you’re a big country, I suppose, but I, I, yeah.

Anyway, one of the weird threads I get.

a lot of recently is bioengineering in the skies

In Florida specifically. So I was just curious as to whether that’s happening.

And what your take is on that.

Taco: Okay. Yes, it is happening. My take is I’m all for it. Accept that right now.

um it’s raining and i would prefer it not be raining unless there’s doing

because it’s supposed to rain like i guess sometimes rain is good for you

I just don’t like it.

Bux: Hmm.

Okay.

So in England, we’ve got your son.

So I’ve now got.

an equally sunny disposition and it’s getting very green there’s green shoots everywhere listen to my

Perfect segue. And the markets yesterday were blood red.

And then they kind of were a little bit more green and then they were green when I got up this morning and I thought, oh, that’s nice.

When do you think we’re going to get some green candle action in crypto?

When?

Is the ball coming back?

Because I know you and Hutch now, you’re professional Web3 commentators.

You’ve got…

40-year-old degens, you have watched the market, obviously, very closely to provide such.

high quality commentary and content.

So I’m just curious as to what your analysis and prediction on.

when bull is.

Taco: Yeah, you’re exactly right. For anyone who’s not aware, I’m co-hosting a Web3 podcast with Hud.

And we do a lot of prep, as you can imagine.

And so I’m an expert in all of this.

My official prediction.

is Thursday.

Thursday we’re going to go, it’s going to be super green because I think that’s about

when people are going to start turning around.

their attitudes it’s all just you know the power of positive thinking and i think we’re all ready

for that

Bux: The markets are going to be moved by the power of positive thinking.

I can, I can, I can.

I can buy into that.

America’s…

Golden age is upon you and possibly the rest of the world.

other than China, which we’re not going to talk about.

So, yeah, I’m all for it.

Taco: Yeah, I think the golden age is a great.

Way to put it. I think sometimes you just need to really

really shake things up in the most in the most shaky way you can imagine

and just to keep things interesting.

Right. Things were getting a little stale. And so I think that’s great. As an outsider, how do people feel?

in the UK about all of our recent power moves.

Bux: Hmm. I’m in the UK, as you just said, so I’m not sure I’m allowed to feel anything.

To be honest, I might get in trouble.

But as we’re keeping it light and we’re shooting the breeze, I’m going to…

caveat what I’m going to say here which is I as I mentioned at the beginning I love

communities where they’re you know just observing some of them but also you know

gala was at one point in time an amazing community like

we had such amazing people with

And you didn’t need to get on with everybody, but there was a vibe and an energy around it.

that community’s gone off and become part of new communities, right?

Who deserve them and all that kind of stuff.

But whilst I love communities, I’m not a fan at all.

of this follow a tribe type thing, like any tribe.

And I think nuance is incredibly important.

And I think…

And.

having an eclectic view and acknowledging that

not thinking you know something because you’ve read a headline or you’ve heard

from somebody that you like or dislike and I think people forget

And that’s almost a superpower that we’ve forgotten we have is this idea that we can think critically and we don’t have to agree.

be with everything or nothing or be so like polarizing um and i think

Politics does feel like it’s almost eat into celebrity and celebrities eat into politics and everybody’s got opinion on everything.

which is fine um and I’ve watched The Boiler Room and Margin Call and one of my favorite movies

is the big short so um and I’ve read basic economics so uh so um I definitely feel like

I’m qualified

to comment on your tariffs.

I’m joking. I’m not qualified to comment on your terrace.

I will say that your guy.

I don’t know his official title, but he’s sitting.

in treasuries or business or something, Scott Besson. He’s the guy.

that back in the 90s placed a massive bet against the British pound.

was one of the individuals that

created an event that’s known here as Black Wednesday

when everything just disappeared into a hole.

Because him and George Soros, because all these people know each other, right?

Like, this is what you think.

It’s like us, you know, it’s…

This side or that side, and it’s like, guys, they’re all one team.

I don’t know if you’ve recognized that, which is why you need to be eclectic, right?

But him.

Soros amassed a $10 billion short position against our.

currency and it costs the UK government and this is like the 90s this is like a

big deal it cost the UK government like over I don’t

know what like two and a half billion three billion pounds which would have been at the

time about five billion dollars and we were like forced to

remove ourselves from like the european monetary system or an element of it and we’ve lost like 25

of our

token listen to me of our currency value against the dollar so

I’m not a massive fan of Scott Besson, but I’m not a massive fan of him because.

My goodness, that guy knows how to construct and destruct a financial deal.

And so the fact that you’ve got him.

on the inside is probably not a good thing.

for us Brits and other people with, you know, weaker economies and weak politicians, but it

possibly is a…

a bit of a baller move for you all and I guess you know high stakes right um so

Yeah, to your point, you’ve got to shake things up.

You don’t want to get boring.

And middle America isn’t thriving.

in the same way that middle britain isn’t particularly thriving either so um

What’s more odd, though, is that we’re on a space of spaces having a chat about tariffs.

That’s weird. That’s not something you would think that like the everyday people like us would.

ever sort of engage in. I don’t know that our parents were hanging around in the 90s talking

about, you know, taxation and politics. Maybe they were.

But what’s more odd to you that you and I.

absolutely not qualified but do love the movies um are talking about taris or that the simpsons

again called it they’ve so called it what’s what’s more weird to you

Taco: I think it’s more weird that we’re having a conversation about terror.

Bux: I guess the sentence is always right.

Taco: Um,

Right, because that isn’t weird at all at this point.

Although, how many episodes has The Simpsons run now?

Like 800?

They’re eventually going to get so many fingers right.

Oh, come on.

Bux: That’s not fair.

You can’t.

They have been so good at.

calling stuff and you’re saying it’s just because there’s so many episodes really that’s your take

That’s so negative of you.

Taco: Is it?

Bux: Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

You’re a man that runs a show now.

Like, it takes a lot of ingenuity and creativity to put into a show.

And you just basically said.

they’ve saturated it so even a broken clock is right twice a day that’s exactly right yeah

Taco: Which is my whole life.

Speaking of the show, speaking of the show that I run.

How many times did Hutch ask you to co-host?

his podcast before because i know it had to be a few actually um

Bux: I think by the time I got added to the email chain that there were maybe 12 people.

or maybe more that had already politely declined.

And I think it’s because most people had other stuff to do.

And so I reckon I don’t know how many people I asked to get taken off the chain because it was just getting like, no, stop begging.

this is embarrassing you know we can’t all do this stuff so I don’t know how many more people

after i was asked i was obviously unlucky 13 maybe you were i don’t know are there 16

Maybe. No, I’m joking.

um there’s only gonna ever be one guy in hopefully all our lives if luck is on our side but is

A musician, a community manager, a salesman, a conference goer, an American with a…

Feels like a very dry sense of humor for an American who can lose all his money in NFTs.

keep his friends, launch a show about it, and also play video games.

I think you’re quite an eclectic.

wonderful unique mix but don’t let you you know i don’t want you to think i like you or anything

um and

When I say you can play video games, I’m not counting Meow Match because I’m still not convinced that you’ve won that fair and square.

and it is a tapper so technically it’s not a game um but i think you’re right for guys and a few

other things

as well.

Talking of games, have you yet taken a young relative to see the Minecraft movie?

Or as a middle-aged gamer, is that just not okay and not something you do?

Because I’ve seen some amazing…

videos from people in

I don’t know, you call them theatres, don’t you?

I call it cinema, but people in the cinema watching the movie

and they’re going nuts like it’s…

I don’t know, like the Avengers thing and like when Jack Black’s saying lines and stuff,

the crowd’s cheering and saying it with him.

Like, it’s insane.

um and it’s done I thought it was not going to do that well if I’m honest

um not like Snow White bad but not not good

But it seems to have taken like the nation by storm.

And it’s and I know my kid.

grew up on minecraft so like for him i think he would probably go um

But yeah, I’m interested. Have you been? If you have, what did you think of it? If you haven’t, why not?

Taco: well um this conversation is really we’re all over the place here i like this it’s eclectic

So I have not been, and I have a nephew.

who is 13, who has played a ton of Minecraft, and now you’re making me feel like, wow, am I?

It hadn’t occurred to me, and maybe I’m a shitty uncle because of that.

I thought I was a really good uncle, but now.

I’m reflecting on the Minecraft movie, which I knew existed, and yet there was no part of me that thought, oh.

I should take my nephew to this.

Bux: I always.

love your level of self-confidence it’s one of your and your main character syndrome they’re

two of your best traits um but the fact that you’re

having this moment of

reflection I think is is a positive thing for you you should definitely take your nephew

and you get like serious credit points for that as well

You know?

Taco: you’re probably right and i can pretend it was my idea like i thought of it

Bux: he’s never gonna listen to this spaces is he taco and friends

You know, he’s 11.

Taco: He’s not.

I told my wife, Mrs. Taco, who you know, that we were doing this space together.

Bux: I love Mrs. Taco.

Taco: And she said, oh.

I’m not sure what my ex password is.

And that was the end of the conversation.

Like not that she could go find it.

25 seconds like uh that i need an excuse i’m not gonna go through that what have i got right

Okay. Well, thanks for the support.

Bux: It’s good. Does she watch 40-odd D-gens? Because I have watched. I need to watch the third one. I watched the first two.

was talk about she did try and get out of that as well i believe and

Hutch made me chuckle because he was talking about the setup and how she had inadvertently, his wife had inadvertently, like.

criticise the setup as well. So have you got spousal support?

mentally emotionally financially now you’re out of a job you know just you um you you do

Taco: you do need to catch

up on the third one because there have been five um but you’re doing but you’re doing better than

my wife

who did criticize the setup, but has yet to watch any of them.

But I think they’re pretty good.

Stuck Pixel is in here.

um from the short fuse team they were on the last episode which was really great uh and so

Yeah, I don’t want to say they’re actually good, but if you like me and or Hutch.

And you’re, I don’t know, cleaning your house or if you’re on a boring drive, it’s worth checking out for those 40 minutes or an hour.

Bux: No, I, you’re being self-deprecating, which you shouldn’t be because.

Both you and Hutch are awesome.

I’m not going to tell you that again.

So this is recorded.

But I listened to you guys, the first couple.

That’s what I did.

I just had it playing in my kitchen while I was like.

from around the evening and it was just it was nice because I felt like I was listening in

to a conversation with two of my friends and it was just quite you made me chuckle

and there’s just a really lovely dynamic and it’s very different because it’s so

It’s so genuine because you can tell that you guys get on.

So, you know, it’s not like me and you.

It’s much nicer.

Taco: right there isn’t there isn’t that underlying animosity yeah yeah no i i love between each other

Bux: They would like debate whether we actually did like each other or not.

You know, we just give it away occasionally with an emoji.

a gif. That’s about the only clue, I think.

Taco: yeah but that’s kind of my my love language i grew up in a house that was like that my

Bux: That’s such an American word for love language.

Taco: Yeah.

Yeah, growing up like my grandfather was very, it was.

If we did something wrong, he would say that he was going to hit us with a brick.

But you know that, but that’s just his way of saying, I love you.

which you realize later, but yeah, it maybe messed me up a little bit.

Bux: So now that’s how you do it. Yeah.

Yeah, I can. I’m down with that. I can. Yeah, I can interpret you. OK.

Looking, yeah, so we kind of…

A little bit looking back, looking forward, I’m going to tie it to the next thing I wanted to ask you.

I’m anticipating your answer being quite amusing and it’s something I saw the other day and it’s

not related to, again, anybody that’s joined.

And this is just me, Box and Taco, just shooting the breeze a little bit because things are very.

I octane and risk and intensity and I’ve got a job that’s, you know.

quite demanding tanko we’ll talk about taco and his recent departure from employment but

It’s just nice to just have a moment with people we know in a bit of a safe space.

So that’s what this is all about.

And we’re going to pull some of you up if you if you want to have a chat with us.

In fact, I think if you request to speak, then you can.

You can hop up and ask a question or whatever you want to do.

So I saw this and I.

I was half.

And I don’t want to sound like a, I think Joe Rogan reported on this as well,

because I’ve seen it in a feed.

And again, my algo is always.

putting podcasters in my feed which is which is cool like as long as they’re from different worlds

but the dire wolf

is back the thing that was extinct 10 000 or whatever the hell it was years ago through

You know, the gift or the.

you know, the miracle or whatever you want to call it,

of technology and reconstruction, they’ve managed to breathe.

um some direwolves so i am they’re very cute

But it is a wolf. I think Jon Snow would be very happy.

um, that he has a wolf again. Um, what would you, if I stop typing, we can hear you.

oh my god send an email later are you on amazon again

Taco: I’m actually on two spaces right now, which is embarrassing.

Bux: That is embarrassing.

Really? Who’s other space do you want?

Oh, okay, fine.

I don’t know how you were tracking this conversation, if that was the case.

So if you could bring back something that was.

it could be animal or other what would it be and why okay

And you can’t say a dragon because they weren’t real.

Just, you know, I know I went down a whole Game of Thrones thing, but like a dire wolf now is a real thing.

A dragon, still not a real thing.

Taco: thing. But I am going to start with an embarrassing confession, which is that I didn’t know they were

real.

Like, they were in Game of Thrones, and they’re awesome, but I thought they were fictional, because we don’t talk about dire woes.

as part of historic animals.

Right, you don’t hear about the way you heard about I think I didn’t know like oh my god like these are

These are real wolves that we can have.

Bux: You can’t have one. You can’t be Jon Snow. I don’t think they’re going to domesticate them.

Taco: just so you’re not complete what are we doing then what are we doing with them

what’s the then why are we bringing them back if not to have them