625 safenodes for now from a single host.
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You must have over 300GB of RAM on that monster. Gigabit internet or more? In my calculations and experience with node running you are probably getting very close to the concurrent sessions limit with those 625 and a 1,048,576 table. That cc max has been my limiting factor.
I have 1.5TB of RAM on this host. Yes, 6x10Gbps+4x1Gbps internal bandwidth (for data storage and other network traffic). I donât think I can push it higher due to power constraints (mainly for the additional CPU required to run more safenodes).
I will focus on turning on other safenodes on other hosts that are on a different circuit breaker. I am on a mission to find out just how high this routerâs active session table will go within this location⌠soonish⌠
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One advantage EU and AU have here is that one breaker can handle 4.6KW (20 Amps @ 230V nominal) And can go to 32 Amp. And can have 3 phases @ 80 amps pole fuses. Had that when rural. If go commercial building then the sky is the limit
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⌠for a commercial building the sky is the limit
Famous Dutch skies - but lower:
Gridlock in the Netherlands
Having no grid capacity on high- and medium-voltage electricity networks seems to be the new normal in the Netherlands Grids across the world have become bottlenecks slowing the advancement of renewables, but the Netherlands seems to have been hit by the problem particularly early and hard.
The Dutch story showcases how grids can become a bottleneck for the expansion of renewables and electrification in any country with such ambitions.
The first signs of congestion occurred in 2018, upon feed-in from solar photovoltaic (PV) parks â and today the âelectricity grid in all provinces is largely full, probably full or almost full."
New buildings - planned years before - are on a wait list for power and sometimes even have to use generators in the meantime.
4.6KW (20 Amps @ 230V nominal)
Also here in the Netherlands regular fuses in homes/apartments have to be two steps below the main fuse the power supply company uses, 25A, so limited to 16A (3,68 kW).
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Here it is a tad more flexible. There is a formula to apply to circuit breakers that can be used. Adding up lighting breakers, HW breaker, General power outlets, Stove, etc and applying factors to the sum of each type and as long as the final figure is below the main âpoleâ fuse then its fine.
So here with a 80 amp pole fuse (up on the pole on the street) its OK to have 32 Amp fuses. We go 8 amp, 10amp, 16 amp, 20 amp, 32 amp breakers and the a/c breaker is a 32 Amp breaker since the a/c max inrush amperage rating is 23 Amps.
Yea âsky is the limitâ is just a saying, just like the sky still is limited to like 60KM the total power for a place is limited to the locality supply and surrounding infrastructure.
Fuses and breakers are not there to protect you directly, but to protect the wiring. A secondary factor is risk of fire.
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Another difference, no poles here, only underground cabling for the âlow-voltage gridâ:
Network is a 3-phase system with a voltage level of 400 V between the phases and 230 V between the phase and the neutral with a maximum connection value of a connected party of 200 kW.
Had to look it up for the Netherlands:
The low-voltage network has a length of 240000 km, of which only about 200 km above-ground.
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Underground service is becoming more common here too. But only in new areas currently, or under certain circumstances they will convert to underground. The plan is to increase the underground services over time. Ours is also 415 3 phase. I suppose 400 now since we adopted the standard of 230V nominal (was 240V) but nothing changed except for any new equipment being installed and controllable supply transformers moved down one tap point. Household appliances have to have 10% tolerance so that fits the 230V +/- 5%
200KW is a lot of power. If commercial needs more power then they will have multiple connections and if they need all the power on one connection then they pay for the laying of new cables to get the power.
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Did I ever mention that one of our pracs was involving 3 phase motor-gen sets of that or higher power, they were decades old at that time LOL. If students ever kicked in the generator at 180 degrees off phase the fuses would blow before the gen set ripped out its bolts from the concrete foundation floor. They were serious pieces of kit. No digital control LOL, just a set of lamps to know when in phase. Lamps dim to off and switch them in.
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my new router:
60 euro spent on hp t730 thin client
15 euro spent on inspur dual 10g nic (ali express)
Wish me luckâŚ
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You going with pfsence ?
opnsense or openwrt. depends a bit of what kind of confetti I get when I try to install something BSD-ish.
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Sounds like that will keep you busy getting that set up 
nah easier than trying to run a virtual router as a vm, with nics on pci-passthrough and fighting with all kinds of quirks that only sirface after you start to translate a chinese mailinglist looking for answers
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I tried years ago putting open wrt in a VM with a usb WiFi dongle to try and make a WiFi router out a work pc.
It kind of worked but I wouldnât like to try doing it again 
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âkind of worksâ gets me castrated if the internet is down for too long.
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What about a powerful mini pc like the minisforum ms01 with something like VyOS or PFsense?
Would it be able to handle thousands of nodes?
After reading the entire thread, I still donât know which router would be able to handle this, the mikrotik CCR2116-12G-4S+ seemed like a good contender but @Josh didnât have a great experience with it.
Hi and welcome @d3su !
My observations are that if you take the Multithread Rating of the processor from Intel Core i9-13900H Benchmark (for minisforum-ms-01) and divide by 50 you get the number of nodes you can run. With the 50% processor limit at the moment you have to divide by 2 for the final result + keep in mind that after a certain number of nodes the RAM consumption goes up, currently with 300 nodes my nodes consume 160 GB of RAM, while with 150 nodes it is no more than 60 GBâŚ
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I think what @d3su is talking about here though is using the MiniPC as a router rather than running nodes on it. So heâll be talking about the CPU and RAM being able to handle the number of sessions that thousands of nodes will generate.
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