Network not charging ANT for uploads

Why does the network not charge the ANT price for the uploads? Is it expected behaviour or not?

I have uploaded two small files (bigger just doesn’t work), and both times the network claimed a certain price in attos, but did not actually charge it. Below is the output of the latter experiment. GAS is charged, though.

The files have been unique, my own doing, not uploaded before.

I read from Discord that @DavidMc0 uploaded 27MB file without being charged. Have others seen this?

Asked another way round, why are nodes not paid for storing data?

Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance   | 4899938186393000     |
+---------------+----------------------+
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ time ant file upload -p Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-14_19-04-13"
🔗 Connected to the Network                                                     Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Uploading data to network...
Encrypting file: "Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG"..
Successfully encrypted file: "Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG"
Paying for 4 chunks..
Uploading file: Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG (4 chunks)..
Successfully uploaded Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG (4 chunks) to: f0012e4ec0be24372766c8394a26ab5ac5526eba9c637ac1a4b3a9a1dbdc3890
Upload of 1 files completed in 46.965092696s
Uploading public archive referencing 1 files
Successfully uploaded: Jokukuva_crop_2.JPG
At address: 91bf4ce535af2346729bb5326a5b8717301a4b3d2952bae26acc178568176bac
Number of chunks uploaded: 2
Number of chunks already paid/uploaded: 6
Total cost: 11177141652 AttoTokens

real	1m32.473s
user	0m23.533s
sys	0m9.152s
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-14_19-09-30"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance   | 4858305373224000     |
+---------------+----------------------+

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I managed to upload a 60MB file - without charge. :cold_face:

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I wasn’t forced to pay ANTs for a few days either. But interestingly now a lot (or probably all) of the outstanding transactions have been executed within a few minutes.

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I didn’t have my transactions executed, and now I moved my ANT away from the wallet, successfully.

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That’s curious. What’s also interesting: Now that the batch of old fees has been paid, ANTs are being transfered regularly with every upload (just as one would expect). At least from my wallet.

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Possible/probable the issue was fixed with the smart contract.

Seems more likely to me than it just suddenly working.

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That’s the most likely reason, yes. I was just describing what I was seeing from my limited perspective. :slight_smile:

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I’ve just done an upload to test, and it seems to be working properly now :partying_face:

Maybe the team has been doing some updates on the token contract that impacts this? Or it just started working?

Either way, it’s good that payments actually seem to be going to nodes now, even if the ETH network is getting about 2,000,000 x the value that ANT nodes are getting from uploads (My upload used about $0.06 of ETH, and $0.000000025149253059 of ANT if I calculated correctly) :laughing:

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And I tried to upload with empty ANT balance. Said “insufficient funds” and didn’t charge the GAS either. So all well in that case too. :+1:

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