That’s what it will really come down to. Are a bunch of crypto influencers going to be posting about how awesome Fleming is right away when it gets released or will it take time to be discovered. I tend to think it will take time and there will be sad faces selling low on Fleming release cause that’s the day they set to sell only to see it rebound to the moon as we start to draw in new people that say hey this SAFE network thing is useful to me right now.
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Well, been posting the same post for years, but finally had some free cash flow again and took another few k off the market until full launch. The progress, the feeling, and the potential are vastly above any point in the past (and I held the majority of my coins through the peak). This is one of the few holdings that I sleep like a baby on. Always adding, 13c, 25c, whatever. Far below the price that will exist WHEN only the most basic storage functions work in a distributed fashion.
For now, it is however nice to see MAID’s relative hardness and rise up the ranks compared to overhyped and less worthy projects 
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What you say really makes little logical sense to me.
Who holds an investment and says to themselves
" I’m selling at a certain point regardless of price (flemming)"
Then sells and has a sad face.
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Here is another scenario.
The whale sells at Fleming.
Then
… The price rockets even further and continues its strong growth…
Whale:
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Yep. Andy said he was shorting already so of course he would hope it goes down so he could rebuy
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Additional option/suggestion.
The whale aka “Bruce Wayne” waits until price moon then sells parts of total captial, too not lower price and thereof have alot of funds for a new Batmobile.
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There was also talk on this thread about manipulating the price up not long ago, so I wouldn’t trust either side tbh.
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well if my opinion is that it will go down of course I would trade accordingly and sell some to rebuy when it happens. Same as people that think it will go up more will HODL/buy more. I don’t think that is any kind of devious trick 
Like if that is manipulation then we will all just have to keep our opinions on what way the price is moving to ourselves, making this ever so popular thread pointless.
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I always considered this thread to be the maid equivalent of the poloniex troll box. Anything said here is just speculation, fear, or greed.
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People talk the price to go where they believe it will go and want it to go. Nothing wrong with that, but let’s not pretend that those posting here are 100% objective, will no personal agenda.
This topic is what it is. No point defending or supporting either side of it.
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A general observation (other opinions may differ) is that those hodlers who are all in want it to go up up and away asap, whereas others with more meager resources hope it becomes more affordable and fight back the fomo. The traders like to push the pendulum hard in both directions for max swing. It’s all good entertainment! Better than cable TV at least…
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I get a strong feeling of manipulative agenda from some that makes comments in this thread. It is a little strange that some comments feel like they don’t have any other purpose than being manipulative.
For me it is easy to avoid and don’t read certain comments, but I would wish there was a curios objective discussion about general trading, it would be much more interesting.
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It comes across as suspect if a person seldom comments on any other topics. I’ve noticed that people like that seem to slip away into the ether after a while. That’s a general observation not pointed at anyone in particular.
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It’s pointed at ethereum!
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USD20 and i shall retire 
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I think the difference is you have some people being like too the moon or we are screwed with no actual argument to back it up. Maybe they arn’t even trying to be manipulative but just sharing a gut feeling. In any case I usually just skim past those ones and look for people bring REASONS to the table regardless of if it supports a bullish or bearish prediction.
Depends on whether the Flemming product is useable by the average guy or only by those who understand developer speak and also whether and how Marketing reach out to crypto influencers.
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It could blow up bigger if it was super user friendly but I think even if its just something business’ and super-nerds find useful at first that could still be quite huge in proportion to the market right now. Like even though the people on this forum are super into it and all, we are really just a small merry band. If we start seeing 100 new users of the network per month that is still gonna seem like a big impact.
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Who says this? Seems like a straw man attack to me …
Over the past year the only time moontalk has come up is in comments like this saying “everyone says we’re going to the moon, but really …” No one says we’re going to the moon, or if they do, it’s virtually always jokingly.
Those of us who believe in the project and have invested accordingly hope the price goes up, of course. But my experience of price talk on these forums is that it tends to be sober, cautiously optimistic, etc. I mean … look above.
I get that you’re shorting but if it depends on false arguments, I’m taking the other side 
It seems we’re in a transition phase with this project, which has me and others justifiably, I think, excited. I don’t know what the price will do because I don’t know what BTC will do or what the stock markets will do, but I believe in the project, think it’s grossly undervalued, and invest accordingly. I could be wrong, but I think anyone who sells on Flemming based on the cliche “buy the rumor, sell the news” misunderstands this project and the majority of its supporters. There’s a reason MAID is the single least correlated to BTC among alts …
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I base my speculation on what I expect the floor to be.
Assuming it is even close to what we are expecting, the floor, to me, is that it will become the new “Dark Web”. Let’s face it, Tor sucks. If the SafeNetwork is not more performant and usable than Tor, the project failed, IMO. Additionally, it seems ripe to replace P2P functionality, especially if we have a PtP reward. Even without a PtP reward, we will probably see some Patreon-esque sites pop up to crowd fund the major media rippers with micro-transactions to allow them to upload. The anonymous nature, and streamable + downloadable media makes it a gold mine for pirates.
These two things alone would push the SafeNetwork value up to several billion dollars if it could successfully consolidate these two “markets”. That just scratches the surface of what the network could be, but I see these two markets as obvious early adopters, which their use cases alone would project a ~$10/coin price at current coin levels.
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