Launch Planning: Community Update 🚀

Disagree with your take sorry.

Yes Davids health comes first.
It appears he interacted at will.

Now because he is not allowed to talk as a equal community member he will step away.

A loss for us all.

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My take is that his basic decentness compelled him to.
Some of us jumped on him and like the decnt guy that he is, he attempted to explain the realities. That got him further hassle.
I dont blame him at all for stepping away (not aside) for now.

I will not pretend to be 100% happy with how things are going but I am a lot less despondent than I was a couple of weeks ago.

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I will be here, but not comment on design or the network really. I am working with the team internally and will continue with that. I promised I would work on this as long as I could and get it launched. So not gone, just quiet on the forum and keeping my ideas to myself (and my ai of course :wink: )

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No one has banned anything. This had nothing to do with “allowing”. To think a CEO can be a equal is missing very real power structures.

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My thoughts exactly, I think the erc20 news was just the straw that broke the camels back and David has had to bear the brunt of the backlash because he always tries to engage with the community. I’ve said it before but he is one of the reasons I am still here and will miss his thoughts even if I don’t agree with them. But like a certain community member who shall not be named let’s see if he can stay away :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I think you forgot this :joy:

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Not the CEO, Founder and chief tinkerer.

But the point is, freedom to share opinions and thoughts and ideas makes for a far richer environment.

So will just be a little (lot) more dull now that one of the bright minds is going to stick to business talk.

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Even better, all the more reason to have insight into his thoughts than not.

Anyway its over with.

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@Josh is correct I am not the CEO, I don’t know what point you are trying to make here, but it seems personal and uncalled for. I am a director of several companies and trustee of several foundations/charities and I work for the benefit of others. I will continue to do so, regardless of my details being made public, thanks.

It’s not pleasant, but then again I don’t feel you are trying to be pleasant here.

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Then there is mistake in the source I linked. I think it would be wise for you to correct that, because it seems very official and true. (I don’t know if it is either of those.)

It is also public already, I didn’t make it so.

My only point was to show my source of information.

EDIT:
A-ha found my mistake:

“Last statement dated 22 February 2024”

I guess Sarah was first appointed as director and then later as CEO. My bad, will delete the message immediately.

I’m sorry.

I’ll leave the link here just for the sake of openness:

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Sigh…

I have to admit I don’t know how the information of company is supposed to be updated in the site I linked.

For a couple last comments I was in a haste, feeding my child while typing… :face_with_diagonal_mouth: I first thought I saw current information there. Then I realized that the site is updated maybe a few times in a year. But now, when the child finally sleeps, I see it seems to updated when the changes, like appointments are made. But I’m not sure and really confused.

Could someone please enlighten me, how that site should be read, and why Sarah is not mentioned as a CEO, and why David quitting being the CEO is not registered there?

I know I’m asking to be spoon fed, but since it’s public and missing key information, it might save someone else being misguided.

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This is tech that is out there challenging the NIST narrative re:Quantum Computer Hack Proof protection, inserted for now as shim to allow this encryption to take place at the block read/write level. The inventor showed it at FMS in CA back in August. He is credible, tons of tech books to his credit, many of them we have on our book shelves… worth a look, if only for inspiration… :wink: https://www.shapeshiftciphers.com/

I do think both Maidsafe and the Community can learn much from the innovations being made at Botanix with Spiderchain,

which is a unique novel rotating multi-sig approach which could be modified to create multiple financial systems running different VMs and SC L2 networks where the synth L2 dPoS BTC is pegged 1:1 with L1 PoW BTC and each L2 network is left to their own devices to charge transaction fees.

In Autonomi’s case, in theory current node operators will with such tech enabled to create multiple layer 2 financial system have the option of taking their earned ‘safe coins’ to extend the security of PoW ‘the safe-coin’ 1:1 to whatever L2 chain they want to support and secure,

where that L2 staking action is manifested pegged L2 ‘synthetic safe coin’ to L1 PoW ‘safe coin’ protected by 150 rotating Multi-sigs selected randomly from a 1000 Multi-sig L2 Stakers ( jsut thinking out loud here, ie- randomized security based on say a current Autonomi Network PoW ‘epoch’ hash sued to secure the transaction record to the AN DAG) ,

thus in theory, such an above manifestation would allow the L1 ‘safe coin’ holder or node operator to earn yield on the L1 ‘safe coin’s’ earned offering up storage space on one or more L2 Financial Networks running their own SC+VM combo, as they choose.

If nothing else, I do encourage anyone interested to a read of Botanix Spiderchain capabilities and functions, as it really does get the creative juices flowing, mainly because one needs to think outside of the ‘legacy boxes’ we can all sometimes be trapped in, as it is very unique.

n.b- Botanix go live in a month on top of the existing BTC L1 Chain with several different partners. The whole BTC community is buzzing because no new BIPs are required, it just works @ scale,

so much so that even Solana is looking at moving over to BTC as L1 and becoming ad L2 only chain ;).

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The most wonderful thing about this forum and community is that everyone is allowed to freely speak their mind.

The worst thing about this forum and community is that everyone is allowed to freely speak their mind. :joy:

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In principle, there is no technical reason why any EVM cannot switch to use any ERC20 token for the network gas. Actually, if you think about it, the L2 versions of Ethereum with their own token are exactly that.

So the reason Ethereum and its clones don’t use more tokens to pay stakers is because no community would destroy the value of their token and that’s why when someone develops their own coin they release it as a fork.

David’s idea of ​​multiple currencies will be used as an alternative to erc20 tokens, the probability of any such token being accepted by the community as the network gas token is close to 0.

Whoever wants such network gas token will release a network copy. There are enough communities in the world for whom our data will mean nothing.

The Chinese have their own internet and don’t care about ours, so it’s more likely to have multiple networks with their own coins than to have one network with multiple tokens competing to be gas…


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Heres Bux mentioned here as Autonomi CEO

Although an official UK govt site, Companies House has been known to be misleading and downright incorrect.

Absolutely nothing to do with Autonomi, my own Scotcoin project was almost fatally derailed by incomplete info on that site - The bastard had 3 different identities on there

Avoid anyone called Duncan Johnston(e) Watt. Go on Duncan, sue me ya wank…

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…I really followed your path and might end up sticking with such fruitful laptops…if we ignore the price for a second the quality really is amazing from what I am seeing in front of me…

Out of curiosity… I am using llama3.1:70b currently for more or less everything because it’s not super huge, fluent and eloquent in German and does a pretty good job at programming too… I tested dbrx too but somehow didn’t see a huge benefit and it really clogs the ram a bit… (especially when switching to llama3.1 again forth and back… Both together don’t fit obviously)

What’s the models you’re using currently? The medium-larger ones all seem to be pretty good and I’ve a bit a hard time to see why I should choose one above the other…

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is scot coin actually a live thing says they are listing q4 2024 ??

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Toivo - first of all, enjoy it while you’re littleun is small enough that they need you to feed them, mine is big and despite the juggling of being a present parent over the years, it was worth every single second, simply magic.

Secondly, my position as CEO of maidsafe.net complements David’s as founder - there is also a board of directors, who I speak with at meetings every 6 or so weeks, I am accountable to these guys, who can choose at anytime, should I not be working in the interests of the Maidsafe shareholders and by extension (and fortunately) the network and it’s token holders (very good to have alignment on what success means rather than have an inherent conflict of interest about it like some orgs do) - to cease my employment. So far, they’re on board with the plans and can see the logic behind the calls that have been made and are excited for the plans for network partners etc.

Talking of plans we are (as always hoped by David and team) moving to remove and make the old centralised model redundant, instead putting Maidsafe (through the paying out of its many shareholders) in the care of the network’s non-profit foundation - we have succession (stability) planning of course in flight there - I am acutely aware that any gaps, any perceived risks, will be detrimental to the potential success of the network - which is ultimately what I’m accountable for - and rightly so.

The updates across the last few months are in part because we’re moving from a well loved project into a viable, live, network - I am here because while I care very much for the vision and all that David was (and has been) building with the team - I also respect that without being live and used, and without meaningful rewards for those making that possible, that that the network won’t only be limited in it’s size, it will also be limited in it’s impact - and that would be a tragedy.

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