So how is that going to happen when the way we left it was me saying to you: let me know when you are ready and we’ll address that, perhaps we can pin your topic to the front page. You haven’t responded since then to say you’re ready, or waiting for something.
Where Meta lives is another discussion and linking the two creates a deadlock, since that too needs to be OK’d by the mods or voted on by the community. It makes more sense to address these one at a time, so it’s up to you which you deal with first. Either way, I suggest you create a topic and we’ll make sure it is visible - and pinning it is obviously more prominent than putting it in Meta even if Meta was on the front page.
BTW The falsehood I refer to is your talk of mods appointing themselves when MaidSafe and the community made the initial selection, but gave no guidance on how to expand the team.
I take responsibility for how it went from there, and I will be happy to make the case for maintaining the current mechanism once the debate begins, and I’ll be interested to hear what ideas the community has, and very pleased to have a clear decision on what we all decide for the future.
I often see the mod team being referred to as if we aren’t part of the community, when the reason people have become mods is because they are very committed to the project, and have shown this by their activity as community members.
We are not your overlords, we’re people chosen from the community to administer the forum according to the guidelines. We created the guidelines over time because we needed to make clear to you all and to each other what moderation is, and why it is so.
It is up to the community to decide if it wants us to be removed, selected differently, guidelines changed etc. If you don’t bother to initiate that process, please stop raising it repeatedly here and there, because it creates a false impression of the situation, and is detrimental to the project - by portraying the forum as run by people who are not accountable and who are censorious of dissent. When what we are doing is asking you to hold us to account, and trying to strike a balance between free discussion useful to the whole community, and a forum that is welcoming and attractive to new visitors.
The only reason any of us mods put all this work in is because we value this forum and want it to be the best forum it can be in support of the SAFEnetwork and ProjectSAFE. Naturally we can’t please everyone all the time, and yes we do make mistakes. We’re tolerant of minor infractions, usually discuss issues and reach a consensus before acting on more serious or persistent issues, and constantly let people know we’re available to discuss any issues they have with us or others here.
Naturally being “in charge” draws criticism, especially from a community so passionate about freedom, and suspicious of authority (me too you know), but that doesn’t mean we are suddenly no longer people who hold the values that SAFEnetwork embodies. And we’re also human, and please remember we’re doing our best for SAFEnetwork and this community.
And once again, if you don’t like the way we do things, it’s up to you to debate it with the community, put a proposal, and for a big change get consent through a vote. If not, I think it’s best for the project for you to accept what is and drop the issue.