If freedom of speech is what you guys are promoting why are you trying to hide my post? Perhaps a de-centralized internet has it's downsides afterall

[anon40790172]

@Blindsite2k

As I can see whether or not the post was moved to marketing or not it was first moved to off-topic as evidenced by the following posts.

This is correct. That person made the same post several times in different categories. @Melvin deleted 2 of them (out of three) as you can see here:

The third same post was moved to “Off-topic” and @Melvin sent a PM to the user explaining what he did:

@Melvin

Read my PM. I’ll copy it right here but please respond in the PM.

Melvin:
You already posted this and I moved it to off-topic because that’s the category it fits in the most right now. If you didn’t agree you could have send us a PM, not ignoring it and posting it again in a new topic. It’s a good point to raise and it’s more related to SAFE than off-topic but I’m sure it doesn’t belong in Cybersecurity. I will ask the other moderators if they know the right category for post like these, if they don’t maybe we need to create a new one.

This is just normal moderation. We don’t allow cross-posts in different topics. So 1 (and only 1) topic was moved temporarily to “Off-topic”. The user was new to the forum ( and probably to how our PM-system works) so she replied with:

@Natalie_Bertoncello

Everytime I try to post a topic it gets deleted or hidden…ironic really

This is not so strange, as @Melvin explained why in a reply. He also stated that we might even look for a new category.

@Melvin

I will ask the other moderators if they know the right category for post like these, if they don’t maybe we need to create a new one.

Is there anything wrong with this moderation? What did we do wrong in your opinion?? And here was my reply to the new person on the forum:

@anon40790172

We don’t kick people of the forum for posting in the wrong category etc. So be welcome, read your PM’s and you’re good I think. You’ll get a notification on the top of the screen when someone sends a PM.

If things are unclear just send a PM to @ moderators

I said “be welcome” and also stated that we don’t kick people off the forum for posting in the wrong category, taking away her concerns of being kicked off the forum.

Anything wrong with that? What did I or @Melvin do wrong when it comes to moderation???

So for @Al_Kafir to state that we moved multiple of her topics to “Off-topic” is far away from the facts. And now he says:

@Al_Kafir

No - I was REPLYING to the person talking about “posts” (multiple).

Yes, she was talking about multiple posts. But not multiple posts being moved to “off-topic”. I showed you a screenshot as proof above.

@Blindsite2k

“Don’t worry it’s just temporary until we find your post a new home. ”

As I quoted above, we some sort of did that. I said she was welcome, @Melvin explained why he did what he did. What else should we do??

And about trolling, that’s what we call misquoting over and over again, making incorrect statements etc. Same for saying that you don’t want to discuss “anything with mods” and reply a few replies later asking mods for an answer:

It consumes a lot of time and energy to reply to this sort of behavior. Same for not reading and asking the same question to a person that already answered that question to you. After a number of these incidents it’s no longer having a debate, but just trolling.

And now we get these sort of replies:

@Al_Kafir

Not a chance…lol…why on Earth would I raise concerns about a self organising “Tufty club” that believes it has the right to judge and moderate others to the Tufty club itself? You’re all just members of the Community who have pinned badges on themselves…you have absolutely no legitimacy for the positions you hold and I’ll take as much notice of you as you do me - your badge means sod all…

So for everyone here on the forum using @ moderators is just normal (as stated in the Forum Guidelines) but for some users it is not? I really asked a normal and polite question. Look at the answer I got.

And now we have these points made again:

@Al_Kafir

The very fact that any proposals/ideas/thoughts about how we can improve modding, now have to take place out of main public view, after the Community first agreed Meta was a category worthy of front page, speaks volumes.How the Hell it can be argued that Meta is of less relevance to the Safe Network than many of the other categories, such as Community, other projects etc …baffles me.

This discussion is going in circles and is just plain opinion spamming. We answered all the points made again and again in different topics. Here they are.

So, to end my reply. We welcome debate on this forum. We are very open to critics and whatever. We replied to this new user using PM’s and here in this topic that she created. So to later on make false statements about it and claim we moved several of her topics somewhere else for being critical is far from the facts as I showed you. And it’s not just this incident as I showed you. Some users get themselves on the radar of the moderators while over 1700 users don’t.