EVM Beta Testing Postponed to October 22

You trying to make this about me to hide logical mistakes?

I think it’s logical to test, as far as we practicably can, the real world market dynamics of the designed network economy, prior to launching it.

It’s working. What conclusions to draw from it, and any changes required are a different thing.

You are proposing we address leaderboard inequality through subsidies to smaller players—as we did before—and I respect that. Others will draw different conclusions.

But as I say, a worthy test, and one that we learn and adapt from. And we will publish our conclusions and proposed changes when they are ready and have the thortoughness you all value, and not before.

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I raised the same issue before, Jim. And I would argue that current testnet is in no way close to what the actual network is going to look like. Simply because we’re throwing pretty massive rewards at a single week, I’m not complaining, I did well. But earning $3000 worth of tokens in a week while spending ± $300 a week in servers is not gonna happen during the real network for long.

Once margins drop, efficiency has to go up. And I’m confident that home nodes eventually are just more efficient (once the network fills more and people don’t get away with faking actual storage that easily, that is). Renting a server in reality will never be the most cost efficient way of running things.

Try giving away 1000 tokens over 2 weeks i stead of 250.000, let’s see what type of nodes are running the network. (Not gonna help tobbetj earn more though :joy: but a bigger piece of the small pie for sure)

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haha yeah xD might end in less and/or different nodes running with different incentive scheme …

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If they decide to give away the available tokens in the next 1 year after launch (as it seems right now) there will actually be millions of tokens to give away every week so…


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This may be true, but we also need to build the network size too. So it’s a balance.

And we really can only talk things so far (from a testing POV) with out the dynamics of a token in market.

Things will look a little different after the 29th, though, so there is that.

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wasn’t something written in the last whitepaper about 30 years slow emission …? 30 ->1 does sound like a slight change :open_mouth:

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Yes, and that was before they announced that they didn’t want the Foundation to hold any money.

I’m reading between the lines here, but my hypothesis is that they want to reduce the risk of having a lot of money in one place.

Well, if I were a betting man, I would bet that the royalties disappear and the available money will be distributed as a subsidy as quickly as possible…


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while they have a ā€˜tokenomics expert’ and I’m pretty sure that an economy running on insane subsidies that suddenly stop could not really be called sustainable

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The old economy was envisioned for a world where the network was slow to take hold. Current actions speak to an all-or-nothing strategy. I.e. either the network will be successful quickly or restart with a different economy and strategy. Speculation only of course, we will see the new whitepaper.


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tuesday will be the day of days I guess :open_mouth: can’t wait for the releases there :slight_smile:

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Please take this squabble to DMs, the forum is not the place to air such grievances

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