AUTONOMI Token - Price & Trading topic

Guys can we please remain civil and try to mend bridges here. I just know for a fact that you two want the exact same thing when it comes to the dot on the horizon. How we get there is a different thing, but it’s also viewed at from two completely different angles. Bux came in because the project needed the push to actually go live with something, that means making the hard choices and not always something everyone agrees with. But there are so many variables that we as a community don’t always know about. At the same time, I can also see how some community members are feeling left out in the decision. Back in the days these things were discussed on the forum and reached a mutual consensus before we moved forward. The fact that we cannot have that anymore now also takes some time adjusting too which may be something the team can take into account before seeing a judgmental / demanding stance from someone.

I appreciate and value every single one of you, but please stop this madness. We used to be (and still are) a friendly bunch.

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Doing a happy dance :man_dancing:
But also excited to see 3 million shortly :heart_eyes:

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yes - no matter how you turn or twist it … 3 million nodes is a very impressive amount of nodes that all got set up by someone and contribute to the network!

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Was a year 10 goal of mine :rofl:

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WTF. I havent paid a lot of attention the last week or so. Where’d all those nodes come from?
Why is this not making news?

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It’s a really good milestone for us without doubt. But to the team it really is step 1. There is apprehension and a wee bit of shock I think, not celebrations for sure. That will come, but I think we need to really push to get the wee fixes we can see in place, a few upgrades and then some apps up and running smoothly.

Then I think it will all just move on. I would not be shocked to see a massive decrease in nodes and then fluctuations, so we are prepared for that, but this is really good to see that we are as humanity ready for something. There will be mega speculators and all suchlike, but if we just keep on moving we should be good.

It’s all quite surreal in many ways, but more so when it’s all smooth and being used by many folks from the app side. That will be critical, almost as critical as step 1.

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Will you make your mind up :joy:

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Its impossible I have soooo many feelings, is this love? :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I would think even more critical :slight_smile: yes - the network needs to run smoothly

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Let me start by saying, that last autumn I surprised myself with the kind of behaviour I was capable of. I mean the way I went ballistic in some discussions, showed paranoid levels of untrust, and the general amount of poison I was spraying around in various occasions. I’m still deeply ashamed of that.

I did apologize at the time, but not enough. And I know that there is no amount of apologizing, that would “set things straight” in a sense that everything would be healed. At least not in a way that I would be seen as the same person I was seen as before going way overboard. That’s painful, but also right at same time. That’s how it goes. I have shown (and found out myself) what I am capable of. It’s taken some work to own and digest that, and trying to behave better. And still, I cannot guarantee, that it would not happen again. I’ve found out, that maybe I don’t know myself so well after all.

But @dirvine, please know, that I see what I have done, and try to do better in the future.

Still, I need to point out something:

I think that it is not just a feeling, but reflects factual circumstances.

The division between the team and the community is factually larger than it used to be before last spring and that division stems from the team closing in much more.

Then there was that murky something we didn’t know about, but that somehow loomed above everything, and that I now think was the cancer.

We all have some pressures and I hope understanding for all.

But looking back the last year, the situation where the team and all individuals in it were, when you became ill, is quite unimaginable. There’s of course the organizational challenges, when you as the key player are not there, and then all the worry and fear the people who knew you and the situation must have felt. All at the time, when things were taking new direction etc. Thinking about that, it is truly a wonder to be in a place we are now. And of course the recovery from that also takes time. For you, and everybody around you.

I think that I personally might have behaved differently, if I had known what you, and by proxy the team, were going through. Differently, not necessarily better. And I think it was better for me personally, that I didn’t know - but maybe not better for the role I have been playing in this community. Then again, your health and life is in a certain sense no one elses business, and I hope that the distance you kept served you well. That’s the most important thing, after all, and the decision to do so is for no one else to judge.

I’ve seen cancer from close distance (not had it myself), and cancer sucks. There is no way to go through it without consequences, deep and wide, also in the folks around the sick one. I mean, we can say that this and that should have been done so and so, but all the vectors the cancer is throwing out in every level is something no one can do anything about it. Everyone goes through it the way they do, there’s no right or wrong there, and only a fool would judge anyone else about how they are doing it.

And still, we should be able to talk and debate about the decisions and solutions done in that difficult time, relating to this wonderful network we are brewing here. I just wish that, now that we know, we could all see that there has been an uninvited guest in the process, making everything so much harder.

So, from my part, I wish the past is past. It never completely is, but as much as possible.

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Sounds from what you said last night, not enough quotes has been nailed? Will be great to see the back of that one.

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Much respect for this heartfelt message. Self reflection is a skill many won’t or can’t engage in, but it is crucial for healing, resolution and self development… And is a brave step. :clap:

“Knowing others is intelligence;
knowing yourself is true wisdom.
Mastering others is strength;
mastering yourself is true power.”

― Lao Tzu, [Tao Te Ching]

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Yes, @Toivo , it takes a man of strength to have written that, so hats off too you.

I think the only constant in the universe is change, some planned, some forced on us. I had the latter, but pushed that onto the team and especially Bux, who came into a situation where I was very much on the forum a lot saying what I thought and what I could (legally etc.) as much as I could. She has done something I Could not have and we owe the network launch to her, pretty much 100%, but many don’t see that. It needed to happen in a very forced and rigorous way, otherwise we faced many more years of slow pace. That change was seen as dramatic, but more so I think due to me vanishing. So she got all of the blame and little of the recognition, that is life though.

The team also had a shock, of course, as we would expect, but that shock has paid off. Some may have found it too much and others relish the new approach of define a target, heads down and meet the target. Much more accountability and defined goals to see, but also more rewards in bonuses and defined goals and targets. It’s a mix, but the change management had to happen.

Now we are in launch mode, it’s all running fast, there’s loads to do and there are going to be bumps and some of them big and serious bumps. I am really keen we get back to a cohesive relationship with all the community that we can, which is not easy. We are in launch, there is money around, folk will scam the hell out of others and much worse. Trust and integrity are going to be absolutely essential and never taken for granted.

So your message is brilliantly timed, but also a nice signpost for everyone to pull together, many of us have 10 years or more of commonality. Money will change much of that, but I feel there is a solid group that will push right through all that and keep doing the right thing and more value will follow.

so the journey is just about to actually become difficult, trust will erode and relationships will be tested. Small things will be huge and soon every word will be investigated and interrogated from all sides. We need to stay very strong and not falter at all here. That is easier said than done, but the ability to ground yourself in time and ask yourself what is really important, not immediately, but overall, is very important to me.

Anyway, nice message @Toivo and very much appreciated, I hope you can see that.

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Thank you for your kind words, they are well heard and warmly received.

I do see her value and I agree that the push she hash given has been for the good. I think you vanishing was the thing. The team was becoming more of it’s own island, you were being the bridge, until you weren’t. And the significance of that connection lost became apparent much later, with no one else assigned to the job. By the way it’s great to have @rusty.spork doing that bridging now, I think he does very good job. And of course great to see you around again.

It’s possible though. It just needs to be recognized as specific task and assigned some resources. Like I think you have already done, by hiring @rusty.spork and you being around here, too.

Maybe I am talking about “PR -work”. I don’t mean that in a way that it is often meant, to try to make a company look better than it is, but just some work to make the relations to the public work.

There is also two separate forms of these. Trust and integrity of the project and trust and integrity for the people doing it.

Last autumn, when “losing it”, I felt very conflicted about the distrust I expressed.

I first lost the trust to the project, but not the people, which was an internal conflict in itself, and a sort of dissonance that I was desperate to get over. Then I started losing the trust to the persons, too. It was damn weird, because often when the communication from the team to me emerged, I found my distrust unfounded, even stupid, but then something went differently than was told, and it started to creep in again.

I certainly hope so.

We need to actively work against that. There is a force towards that, for sure, but I don’t think that’s an irresistible force, if it is spotted and measures taken to tackle it.

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I would not be shocked to see a massive decrease in nodes and then fluctuations, so we are prepared for that, but this …

There absolutely will be fluctuations, likely large, the only real question IMHO is if they show a dampened behaviour. There is no human way to know the properties of a network like this before hand, it was always destined to launch “out of equilibrium”.

I would chalk it as a milestone victory as in we now know infrastructure can be provided rapidly and on a massive scale. This means deployment at least is on point :slight_smile: Using the network at anything like its present capacity will take much longer though. Hopefully as confidence increases and UX is improved, the demand for the token for uploading will continue increasing… I suspect a native token is required to break out of the early adopter box. Super happy to be alongside everyone here as the journey continues.

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I never know how to look at this, uniswap’s UI seems pretty crap or is that just me?

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I’ve been around this project for almost 10 years.

Why?

It’s premise is a conundrum? I love mysteries.

Like in the early days of the internet, which I’m old enough to remember, no one knows what Autonomi is, in truth, actually capable of. To know that we would need to know what is inside every app dev’s imagination.

No one knows where it is headed, and what it will become.

All we know is we will own it, and we only have ourselves to blame, or to congratulate.

All I know is that Autonomi was forged from the pure fire of truth.

We are now standing at the moment of truth.

We must all forge forward now, together. We have no other choice, but to go headlong into another great mystery, for humanity’s sake. Cheers

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@Toivo if you said nothing else in that post above - this is 100% correct

I cannot agree more - I am just so grateful that I can celebrate both @dirvine and Mrs Southside beating cancer (several times for Mrs S) instead of grieving.

For that alone thank you for your post above.

I may go as far as reading the rest of it now.

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woohoo, we are now on fully coinmarketcap … and ANT is showing up in my watchlist :wink:

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