Browsers just don’t allow this so you have to fork or build a stand-alone browser until the main browsers choose to add your protocol to the ‘accepted’ list. Then you could make a plugin for it.
So you need adoption first.
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Yes, I believe so. We have our own man in the community trying to do something similar in a project too: AntTP - Serving Autonomi data over HTTP - #183 by Herodotos
Note that AntTP can now be integrated as a library, so Brave (or any other browser) could build it in, start the process within the app, then hit the endpoints. In short, AntTP doesn’t need to be standalone, but can be part of an app too.
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Once again if getting one browser (brave) to do this then its still a download for 95% of the population since brave is not as popular a browser.
Downloading one app is not going to be an issue in my opinion. How many phone users have installed at least one app on their phone? How many people have installed the netflix, or similar, app on their computer, TV, etc?
As long as the install is as close as possible to a “one click install” then there should not be too much friction.
Have a library of public domain material? Initially people could have a static web site displaying this fact and a one click install that installs the needed app to access all this over autonomi.
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I don’t think it will be either. If anyone has a desire to use Autonomi, downloading an app won’t be a blocker.
But I also think partnerships with apps with existing user bases that build Autonomi access in could be a great move in terms of getting Autonomi to new audiences quickly. So it’s good to know it’s technically feasible.
Brave has 82.69m active monthly users who also have an ANT compatible wallet, so a partnership could do a lot to get Autonomi accessible to a huge relevant audience… if there were something in it for Brave of course.
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Bitcoin hasn’t failed to become money. It’s on an evolutionary path which will lead to it becoming money. Money can’t appear out of nowhere. It needs to attract attention and value, it needs to spread through all elements of society. It needs a massive market cap in the multi-trillions. To expect Bitcoin to be money now is simply jumping the gun on what is a necessary path and progression toward the “money” goal.
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IIRC Brave also already has Tor support built in, so adding Autonomi support is a logical progression.
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We’ve actually spoken with Brave.
It’s worth noting that the integrated IPFS, and then dropped support for it because it just wasn’t seeing the expected use / living up to the promise, and maintaining support comes at a cost.
They are a very small team, and these things are a risk for them, so they need to see the the use and demand in production before taking that step.
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It seems a little obsurd to me at this point that Bitcoin wouldn’t be considered money.
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Is there a middle ground? Such as the team maintains the code and Brave uses it?
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That’s interesting! I think everyone calling for a native browser should consider this too - if Brave are concerned about the relatively small cost of integrating IPFS, imagine the total cost of having to support the rest of the HTTP stack.
Did Brave give an idea of what an integration should look like from their perspective? Did they underline what would lead to success?
For example, if they could integrate a proxy directly into *Brave, then direct ant:// traffic to it, would that be a low maintenance lift for them?
Obviously, if we expect them to build out and maintain a HTTP wrapper around Autonomi, it’s comparatively a much bigger lift than just asking them to route traffic to something which exists already.
* FWIW, I’ve tested launching Brave with proxy settings set from CLI options and it works well: AntTP - Serving Autonomi data over HTTP - #132 by Traktion
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That’s great to know that there’s some relationship & awareness there, so that something could happen when the time is right & offering aligns for both teams.
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Not sure if it adds much complexity to link Brave’s wallet / other wallet extensions to be able to pay for Autonomi related transactions?
Maybe that’s a very simple thing to pass wallet requests etc to upload to Autonomi through to the browser wallet or extensions?
I’ve not played with Brave’s wallet, but the Autonomi API only requires a private key to make payments (for data uploads, etc). How that key is presented/provided would likely depend on integration design.
For example, internally, Brave could pass a private key to the Autonomi API (via an integrated HTTP proxy). How it retrieves/releases that private key could be a UX choice.
For retrieving balances, etc, they could just lean on existing extensions (e.g. Metamask).
Just spit balling though!
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I don’t have detailed knowledge, but assume that would be a problem, and Brave / Metamask / Rabby etc would be looking to receive unsigned transaction information, and then sign and broadcast the transaction, rather than passing over a private key.
I assume the Autonomi API has this / will have this, as it’ll be needed to work with hardware wallets etc.
Anyway, probably too much detail for something that’s not likely to happen in the short-term, though it shows promise for the future.
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Yeah, I think ‘Dave’ is/was trying to do something along those lines, but I don’t think we have examples documented for the API yet: Chunks | Autonomi (get_funded_wallet() isn’t a real function, but implies calling EvmWallet::new_from_private_key).
Maybe the Dave source code would uncover how this works, come to think of it: project-dave/src-tauri/src/ant/files.rs at development · maidsafe/project-dave · GitHub (this shows passing a ‘Receipt’ as a payment option, rather than a ‘EvmWallet’).
Interesting! Maybe I’ll have a poke around this for AntTP, as it could benefit from a similar treatment.
EDIT: It would be great to get some improved docs for this too, once it is finalised.
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Just finished listening to Ernest Hancock interview Paul Rosenberg (Freeman’s Perspective) and he (Ernest) made a comment about the recent Bitcoin conference (30,000 people attended) i found very interesting.
He described the conference (which he attended) as being not “Inspirational” but “Frightening”, with Saylor performing his usual buy, buy, buy, hodl.hodl. hodl circus act..
I agree 100% with Ernie. 
Nah, to me (backed up by historical fact) Gold is the real decentralised rebellion, Bitcoin is compliance, the anti-rebellion, life extension technology for the Dollar (?), it’s a fugazi!
I want (crypto) innovation on Gold, i want stability, i want the opportunity for everyone to be able to become pillar’s in their communities, Bitcoin does not facilitate this (quite the opposite in fact )and never will, but Gold does.
Anyway, just a difference of opinion, you might get Bitcoin mass adoption (personally i very much doubt it) but it won’t be through “everyman” buying it out of freewill, it’ll be through financial engineering, sleight of hand.
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It’s time for a countdown! 3 million partyboy is down to 1 million!
So, who is counting along.
Ten!
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Yeah… if party boy could go ahead and wait till after next pay day to finish dumping that would be great.
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He’s getting impatient…bad habit for a trader.
The only thing he had to do was putting in a limit order @0.12 by using somehting like cowswap and wait…let the market come to you. You can see clearly that the price wants to go up, he could ended up with almost twice the money, but he screws the whole market up now (and himself)
He probably hates money and throws it in the dumpster.
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wrong way to look at it he is providing great buying opportunity’s to the patient buyers 
I here by rename “Party Boy” to “Robin Hood” stealing from himself to give to the many.
a true safe network hero a selfless act of kindness and decentralisation
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