ANT Token - Price & Trading topic

Where were those maid traded? Oo

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Bittrex, the only exchange with any sort of MAID volume for years

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It did not stay down there for long the bargain hunters soon scoped them up.

Knowing the background will reveal more, and I am sure you knew.

Weren’t those the ones sold by people who did not want to or could not save those MAID elsewhere and sold them instead before they stop trading them.

Special case and not indicative of any real value.

Of course trading sees highs and lows, so whats your point anyhow.

BTC was 1200 dollars one day and a few dollars a few weeks later. Does/did that show BTC is no good?

In the long term scheme of things this means nothing anyhow even if that sell off of MAID was not a special case.

Sounds like you are trying to convince us to sell, is that right?

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Let’s not try to polarize everything. I’m sure some people have money on the sideline waiting for a dip to buy, myself included. That people share why they’re expecting a dip doesn’t mean they’re trying to convince anyone into selling. We’re all long term believers, otherwise we wouldn’t be here. If anything, sharing why we’re expecting a dip is arguably counterproductive as it will allow more people to have liquid assets when it dips.

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:smiley: did you read @blvd s posts in the past? xD

leaving out little details like “it reached low value [when the last trustworthy exchange delisted the coin]” is not without an intend :wink:

aaaaanyway :smiley:

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Anyone who calls this project vaporware at this point is either woefully unaware of recent events, or are trying to artificially suppress the price. There’s really no third option.

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That wasn’t tokenomics; it was a specific short-lived de-listing event where a bunch of holders/traders on Bittrex had no option but to liquidate, as there was nowhere else to trade MAID & they either didn’t know about eMAID, or didn’t want to do the KYC for it.

The price has been much higher than it is currently, and the project has never been in a better place.

But, there is now far more ANT in circulation compared to eMAID, and with a doubling of supply coming up, of course there’s a chance of a temporary dump… but any dump will just be noise on the way to far higher prices if the network keeps functioning well & a load of apps start appearing & gaining traction.

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Fair enough. I get criticism, I don’t get the doom and gloom. But it should be mentioned the doubling of supply is a fact, while the network functioning well and apps appearing and all that leading to a higher price over time is a mere possibility. We know the supply will double. We don’t know when (if ever) the price goes up.

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this

Obviously if it was just one post then I would not suggest that this might be the case.

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It remains to be finally defined what a native token in Autonomi would look like, but I highly doubt that with the latest proposed designs it could be considered a “crypto-asset account allowing anonymization of transactions,” as defined in the AML framework.

If Graph is used, as planned, the public key of the holder and their descendants will be visible, which means having the list of transactions. Nor, to my knowledge, is there any plan to add an anonymization protocol, as was considered some time ago. In the end, regarding this issue, it is no different from other cryptocurrencies.

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tbf, governments also often talk about encryption being banned and/or back doors being added. They also talk about various levels of compulsory censorship.

Will it stop Autonomi? No - even we can’t stop it now, even if we wanted to.

Ofc, applying pressure before the native token is released could be a thing. Once it’s in the wild, I think everyone will have to live with it though, like it or not.

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Of course. There would be no opportunity if there were no uncertainty or information asymmetry.

Warning: long post with some of my reasoning for why it is reasonable to expect ANT token to go up in value in time. Feel free to ignore!

A very few people, including Autonomi forum and discord members, now know for sure that Autonomi can perform well at scale, because it has only recently been shown to do so.

We also know that a bunch of interesting apps will be available fairly soon due to Impossible Futures.

It is almost certain that the network UX will get better from now due to the development activity around network apps and core network improvements being worked on.

Anyone who believes there is demand in the world for a network like Autonomi knows that Autonomi is almost as far as it will ever be from saturating that market, because it’s only just emerging.

So, while it’s not certain the price will ever go up, it is incredibly likely given what we know.

We also know that this may take time due to token dilution from shareholders, time taken for UX to improve, and time needed for tokenomics to improve (specifically the network filling enough to raise ANT cost of uploads, and Native token implementation).

Given all of the above, to me it seems close to inevitable that the token price will go up significantly in the future, even if it takes some time.

Yes, it’s not certain, but it seems like a very good risk / reward at these prices due to the massive technical de-risking we’ve recently seen.

Market risk remains, but I think there’s a whole load of great applications, and that there will be significant demand for a technology like Autonomi seems obvious to me.

Only time will tell if this is correct. It all seems reasonable to me, but I may be crazy :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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emaid/ANT pumped 119x this cycle (lows November 2023 to highs June 2024). That’s more than enough. Long term this may be a viable investment (interesting but unproven fundamentals), that’s why i keep a bag. Short term alts havent even began to correct.

In a bear, nothing can go up and fundamentals go out the door

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Just wait a few days and you can buy a ton of cheap ANT, no need to add extra doom

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In a bear, when demand exceeds supply, price still goes up. Headwinds don’t mean price can’t rise, even if they make it less likely.

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Out of 10 thousand of coins+, the only exception has been KAS to my knowledge. This is not something to argue about honestly. There is always an outlier somewhere

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Argue no, debate yes, your 1 case you know of will not be the only one.

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This assumes Autonomi will remain in sync with Bitcoin and other blockchain projects.

There is an argument that if a technology differs substantially enough, it will no longer synchronise.

With Autonomi, the blockchain is at the periphery and to be soon replaced by a native token. The goals and aspirations of the 2 projects are also radically different.

Sooner or later, the tail will stop wagging the dog.

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I’ve lost track, what day do these locked up tokens become available?

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