Looks like a collecting of beta rewards. People went crazy with eth accounts for sepolia
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This was the core of my question. Back in September we were told it would be possible to eliminate much of the blockchain barrier, such as gas.
Whatās missing right now is a way for ordinary non blockchain folk to get involved, and especially upload. Without that I find cheering 2m nodes hollow. With it Iād be ecstatic.
Even with some idea of what should be possible if be happy, but weāve heard nothing about mitigating blockchain since September.
Iām not suggesting it should be in place, or being worked on (because I canāt second guess technical priorities out here). I was asking what the possibilities are for this. Thatās all.
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There are a lot of folks and āorganizationsā, which I use loosely in this context if you know what I mean ā¦ who have been farming rewards on other storage networks, so when they see there is a new one, I imagine they just add them into their mix. So basically a huge amount of storage with technical expertise has been in this space for a long time now and shifting over to farm a new network when it offers a reward system is a no-brainer.
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this is a problem we have recently seen. Implications and these implications are something new to this forum from folk who are respected members of it. I have seen many times, sniping and tones of abuse and doubt as to peoples integrity.
I can say you have been and still are an important and valued member of this community. But I keep seeing things like
they wonāt tell us
*they wonāt speak to us
and much more, itās amplified, purposely or not and in ways that are accusatorial.
So yes, I always appreciate critique, but the feeling that we as a community are working together has been moved to a battle of sides now and that is 100% wrong. It was never like that and all the work you are doing in awe and web is brilliant, but there always seems to be a sting in the tail these days and we donāt need that.
Can we not go back to just respecting each other and understanding the pressures some are under to get us to where we are and work as a team. It does not need to be red verses blue here, it never was in the past.
I get a feeling some folks seem bitterly hurt and I cannot see why, there seems to be a real desire for revenge of some kind and again itās not clear.
Thinking moving forward is ignoring the fundamentals is clearly wrong, but continually pushed as the new way, itās not, the fundamentals have not changed, but getting there is a journey for sure. We cannot wait will they are all in place then go. We need to get traction, we need a network running, we need to fix the bumps and we need to do it together. Not as adversaries, I have no idea where all that happened, but itās wrong 100% of the time.
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@dirvine, @happybeing, Iāve really disliked seeing the tension between you two over the past several months that Iāve been back on the forum. Allow me to try to play peace maker.
Iāve seen for years @dirvineās principled vision, technical acumen, and good instincts in decision making. Iāve also seen for years @happybeingās ardent support, in word and code, for the principled vision and project.
@dirvine has a point re: negativity, which hasnāt always passed the pick-your-battles threshold. (US english vs British english? When the argument should have been for simple consistency whichever was chosen)
@happybeing has a point re: compromising, even if temporarily, on some of the original principles of the vision. (centralized Discord over Matrix? Blockchain?)
Not everything has been done perfectly, by team or community, but a lotās been done, and we still have a shared goal; permissionless decentralized networking. Is there any way you two could acknowledge to each other those facts, presuming they are indeed facts, and reconcile with a bit of forgiveness and enthusiastic optimism for the opportunities in our immediate future?
Iād be elated for you two to have the air cleared. You two both deserve it.
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Not From me. I said what I said, so if you wish to criticise what I say please quote it.
Your post implies that thereās a long history of me criticising the team. I have occasionally pointed out things that to me were disingenuous but donāt wish to list them here. If you care to point out why, in those few cases, what I criticised was actually honest, or an understandable mistake Iāll be happy to discuss.
I find that people, talking in general now, criticising critique or anything they perceive as negativity rarely look at what is actually said, much less quote it so that it can be addressed or responded to.
Itās a thing online that people often reply to what they themselves imply rather than what is said.
I try, not always successfully, to be accurate - writing what I mean explicitly - so people should always look at what I actually say rather than what they imply or assume themselves based on goodness knows what.
If anyone thinks Iām wrong or being unreasonable Iām happy for them to point that out. But mostly I see unspecific criticism that is full of things which donāt reflect what I think or say, yet which might be aimed at me.
So occasionally I respond to those ātoo much negativityā comments with what I actually think of have said, but to little avail.
And now all this from you.
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Iām going to stay away from the forum for a while.
Itās too painful for me to be here as well, and I prefer to work on code but at times I do have to engage here as well.
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From what iām reading we have a rapidly growing network that isnāt being used. This is creating a increased supply of ANT tokens with almost no demand for the token for uploads.
If this is the case it feels like there should be some mechanism in to cap the size of the network until it is for example 90% full of data. I can see the need for getting the network big enough in the first few weeks to have enough capacity, but it seems like bad economics to be paying nodes to host no data to infinity.
This reminds me a little of the problem Satoshi had with the block size early on. With no limit on the block size the network was open to attacks.
I think it is very impressive that the network is working with so many nodesā¦ a massive well done to the team for achieving this and iām sure they are learning lots. But just like any engineering project, problems arise during commissioning and it has to be adapted. We are clearly in that phase, but we wouldnāt be here if we hadnāt tried, so for me this is part of the engineering/commissioning phase. Iām sure a solution can be worked out.
Keep going Maidsafe.
Be respectful. Everyone wants the same goal.
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I hope you do keep building Mark, yer a good person, but I do feel you are not your usual balanced caring self when talking about the team. I do know though that your core is one of peace and caring. So I hope some time out is good for you. The community do respect and admire your passion.
I do too, but recently I have felt there is an imbalance in the force and itās unusual. It may be the fact itās all happening and quickly and that is scary as it could be dangerous to the project etc. but in any case. We donāt want to fall out or be misrepresented in any way. So my very best wishes man, youāre still a stand up dude.
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I do not talk about the team, except to praise them.
Please stop misrepresenting me.
Iām not going to read any more of this.
Good bye.
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Clearing the air can be painful, but itās worth doing so you can build understanding.
There are obviously crossed wires, but it will only be solved by positive communication, not non-communication.
Maybe you and David could chat on DM to try to understand each other? May be easier to make progress than doing it in public?
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Guys can we please remain civil and try to mend bridges here. I just know for a fact that you two want the exact same thing when it comes to the dot on the horizon. How we get there is a different thing, but itās also viewed at from two completely different angles. Bux came in because the project needed the push to actually go live with something, that means making the hard choices and not always something everyone agrees with. But there are so many variables that we as a community donāt always know about. At the same time, I can also see how some community members are feeling left out in the decision. Back in the days these things were discussed on the forum and reached a mutual consensus before we moved forward. The fact that we cannot have that anymore now also takes some time adjusting too which may be something the team can take into account before seeing a judgmental / demanding stance from someone.
I appreciate and value every single one of you, but please stop this madness. We used to be (and still are) a friendly bunch.
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I also respect everyone here, even @Southside.
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Doing a happy dance 
But also excited to see 3 million shortly 
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yes - no matter how you turn or twist it ā¦ 3 million nodes is a very impressive amount of nodes that all got set up by someone and contribute to the network!
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Was a year 10 goal of mine 
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WTF. I havent paid a lot of attention the last week or so. Whereād all those nodes come from?
Why is this not making news?
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Itās a really good milestone for us without doubt. But to the team it really is step 1. There is apprehension and a wee bit of shock I think, not celebrations for sure. That will come, but I think we need to really push to get the wee fixes we can see in place, a few upgrades and then some apps up and running smoothly.
Then I think it will all just move on. I would not be shocked to see a massive decrease in nodes and then fluctuations, so we are prepared for that, but this is really good to see that we are as humanity ready for something. There will be mega speculators and all suchlike, but if we just keep on moving we should be good.
Itās all quite surreal in many ways, but more so when itās all smooth and being used by many folks from the app side. That will be critical, almost as critical as step 1.
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