ANT Token - Price & Trading topic

Yes this network is certainly showing how well the network is interconnecting. Almost like it will be capable to replace much of the commercial internet servers etc

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I will give you some examples of today and this is because we have the network running and it’s grown so much
We found

  • Some nodes had thousands of connections hanging
  • Some nodes have linearly growing resource usage and will die soon unless we fix that (turns out it’s our nodes AFIK and we can solve it, perhaps)
  • UpNP is not working effectively due to flag configs and some code issues
  • home-network flag and relays using issues
  • uploads failing with not enough quotes (that turns out to be relay vanishing during quote)

These are all related and connected. The whole team were on this most of the day ad in a very long diagnosis meeting to figure it out. There’s round the clock working on these items.

Then we know about the cli and API differences in uploading files verses archives and there is not identification on the data type to tell us.

At the same time Anselme and some others are

  • Polishing and unifying the API calls
  • Writing rust and python examples to cover the API usage
  • Updating the docs with @JimCollinson and others to make sure they are good

That leaves nobody free to even go get a cup of tea :wink: The team are flat out and they are learning and fixing as fast as possible to keep this network up and data persistent. We have not called persistence yet, but we want to and we are working to make that the case.

It’s not easy, we never said it would be and it’s not impossible, it is possible, but it’s so much simpler if the team can come on the forum and engage, but the hostility recently has stopped many from doing so and I cannot force them to engage. It’s not in their interests to be battered when they are so busy. But work, they are working and working hard.

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Saw that this morning with one node having 2000 Routing table peers. LOL

Yea I never got uPnP working even with enabling UPnP in the router (MikroTik on HFC) - Yet my son could run a game server on my old laptop using UPnP on it

Oh and standard Starlink routers do not allow UPnP at all, its not even there. Also no port-forwarding

It would seem that there will have to be some ability to not need prot-forwarding/UPnP or exclude a very much growing connection type. Satellite links. Over 5 million today and likely to be 50 million in 2 years

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Same! I see EA games with open UPnP ports, so it must be possible with the right coaxing.

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I’m sure they must be flat out, but it is amazing the watch and contribute where possible.

The team are doing a brilliant job!

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Yes, but they do allow ipv6, but that’s another huge can of worms. What can we do though in those cases, if they are not full cone nat then they cannot be p2p nodes etc. That’s some of our problems we need to overcome. However if the man does not allow incoming connections and blocks them all then what?? (starlink uses CGNAT as well)

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I removed my Gen 1 router altogether and connect a MikroTik router to the power brick (which controls the functioning of the dish/connection) and have been using port-forwarding quite successfully earning and quoting on similar levels to my PC running 600 nodes through a HFC link

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I am deeply and eternally grateful to you and the team, for doing the impossible, and continuing on this difficult road.

When I think where we were not too long ago, and where we are today, I’m amazed and excited.

Steady as she goes, and take a break whenever possible. This is not a sprint, but a marathon.

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Well I can see one singular IP address has a lot of nodes. And that maybe isn’t all the nodes at that address. My nodes only see a portion of a 2 million network

38605 185.202.xxx.xxx

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Someone who wants to invest $1 million (pennies for the crypto world) right now will only take 345k ant instead of 5 million ant because of the low liquidity.

Such a player has no choice but to buy tokens directly from the network by providing resources. I wouldn’t be surprised if we hit 100 million nodes in the coming months.

Of course, then the story about the use of free resources on people’s computers will remain just that - a beautiful story, no one will spend a whole month running nodes for 1 cent, they will simply buy tokens from the market to use the network…


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Depends on the value of the token, how many stubborn nodes remain, and how much data is actually on the network to support. So it might cause problems. Given that rewards are 8% ? I think … that’s a lot of value to harvest, so they may stick around for a while - but will surely be artificially depressing the price of :ant: token.

I hope that’s a rhetorical and you are just asking yourself to help you think of the answer, because if you can’t come up with one, there’s nary a chance that we can! :rofl:

I think this is actually the more important point.

We want the experience to be simple. Users being able to run a node to pay for any daily uploads they want to the ideal, especially while using blockchains for payments.

The rewards are starting to come down too. Maybe they will continue to do so? I don’t know if the short term emissions plan has been published?

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This is a key target and one we need to always focus on. I think we cannot force anything, but as the network stabilises and apps appear there is no doubt we may need changes to the supply/demand balance algorithm and that will be a first network wide or token holder type vote we will need to make IMO.

Those parts are all happening so fast and code flying all over the place right now, when this stabilises and the code is more locked in place then the governance will have to kick in, whichever way we find that makes it not only fair but in the control of the people. That will be interesting as we need to define first ā€œwho are the peopleā€ and work back.

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It’s incredible to see how things are unfolding, i am absolutely blown away by the progress!

Huge congratulations to David, Bux, and the most phenomenal team the crypto world has ever seen! :tada::confetti_ball::tada:

And, of course, a shout-out to this amazing community that helped make all of this possible!

P.S. Where can we check the current number of nodes?

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Did this guy just collect 80K ANT from rewards in 2400 transactions?

https://arbiscan.io/address/0x4df9e33c9c4c08e07a7cebedf64824f25b8fcb3f#tokentxns

seems a lot of it originated from the airdrop last friday?

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ANT’s current marketcap position should be around 186 given 20 cents a coin, not bad

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I have not said any of the things you’ve just implied. If I have please point it out, or better challenge it at the time.

I’ve said things that are true. Including that the team are top notch, working incredibly hard (overworked IMO).

I’ve not insulted anyone. I point out discrepancies between what is said, how things are presented and what I can personally see. Where I’m wrong, please correct me based on what I say.

I recently asked some important questions here and on the discord. I got no reply. I mentioned that here. Is that insulting?

I’m the person being insulted and misrepresented here David.

As someone standing up for the fundamentals for so many years I find your words shocking, and uncalled for.

Autonomi have always been able to attract top notch people, and that hasn’t changed in my view, so please don’t make out that I’ve said anything other than that about the team.

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I agree with @happybeing

A few of us old-timers here have come out against this or that, from time to time and sought feedback and clarification.

That shouldn’t imply that we are adversaries to anyone here, just the opposite - we want what’s best for the project, it’s supporters, and investors.

We are just the ā€˜tough love’ peeps, dishing out our feelings on decisions we don’t understand … so please don’t misunderstand us!

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