With Autonomi be able to do this simple action……?

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Will I be able to upload all of the photographs from my iPhone, over 10,000, and store them in Autonomi?

Will there be a cost for this, or do I just give up memory on my iPhone?

Thanks!

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Yes that is one of the main use cases for Autonomi, to be a decentralized end to end encrypted cloud storage layer, similar to example dropbox.

Yes there will be some cost to upload files so you will need some amount of the future named token, alternative you could run nodes on your PC or maybe other devices to earn funds to upload files.

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I’ve read in a previous post, somewhere, that Autonomi will only be useful for large size files and big users.

So that is incorrect?

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Depends on who you talk to and who is believing who right now.

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There is no restriction on file size for uploads, and your usecase is a great one.

I currently pay a monthly fee for google to hold my photos even if I don’t add any more. And if I stop paying, they are gone.

With Autonomi, it will be a one-time fee, and no ongoing costs.

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The other thing to note, is by participating in the beta program, and by running nodes you are earning nanos which give you a position on the leaderboard, which will give you a token allocation at TGE. You will be able to use these tokens to upload data. So the more tokens you earn now, the better, as you will be able to upload some or all of your 10,000 pictures. :partying_face:

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Yes, file size does not matter, you will be able to upload any size.

Because how the world and exchanges outside this project works then Autonomi will start with an ERC20 layer 2 token but the fee on L2 is expected to be very low. We don’t know the performance yet of the ERC20 L2 but we hope for the best and that the team will go on after launch to get the native token out in the wild as soon as possible, which won’t have any fees or performance limitations compared to ERC20 L2.

But I expect that you will be able to upload small or large files without serious problems.

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This i like

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Its not a restriction on the network but in the physical effort to upload 10K photos at this time, and still unknown actual gas fees on top of the ERC20 token needed. You have to execute 10,000 payments via a ERC20 capable wallet, or setup a batching app to do the payments. Either way the effort with ERC20 will be very large compared to a folder upload with the coming native token.

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I suspect, that the CLI stays the same, and folder upload will be still possible, just payment method is changing. Also, gas fees are told to be dealt with by the team, or baked into the base payment, so no problem here as well.

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Even if a folder upload was able to concatenate the file payments then its a max of 256 chunks (max 85 files) per contract. 10,000 files is still over 1000 wallet/contract executions needed to be done.

A very long way away from

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I reckon that for a large amount of small files you’d realistically need to zip/tar them into a large file, then do the upload. Not convenient, but realistic.

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definitely.

Here grandma, I’ll show you some of the photos from trip abroad. Oh wait they are zipped, I’ll have to download this few Giga Byte file and unzip it and then find the photos. Oh your phone and my phone hasn’t enough free space. Sorry grandma

EDIT: my phone plan only has 40GB total traffic allowance per month. So having to download a multiple giga file to unzip to get one of 10,000 files is unrealistic too

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Sure, but wouldn’t be hard to simply write a script to grab a certain number of files == XMegaBytes, then tar them.

Also people already zip masses of files using upload storage services. So not for grandma, but definitely something consumers already do and at this point we need to find and technically support any use case we can to maintain token value after launch.

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Complexity complexity

And after all that, to be usable it is still a big job to do the payments for all those 256 chunk lots.
The ERC20 contract can only pay 256 chunks at most. So no matter how much you zip/join there is a minimum of over 1000 payment contracts to execute

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Is there any more fee for getting a data from nodes ?

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No there isn’t. Data is freely read from the network

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I agree completeely about the non-suitability of the ERC as you know … but the team seems dead set on it for launch, so I’m just seeking any way we can bring users on board, otherwise the token value is really doomed at launch as there will be a ton of profit taking sellers dumping tokens. We need to market to people to take the other side of that trade and keep it’s value somewhat respectable.

I wish the team would wake up to what they are doing here. @dirvine you said you wanted to allow for a gateway for OG investors to get out, but there isn’t going to be any liquidity to that market if we don’t have buyers for the token - so you are basically really #$%# us hard if there isn’t a strong marketing plan to bring users, and so, buyer into the market.

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Then, there is no hosting income for node operators, is it right?

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Please always make it clear that it is ERC20 L2 because they are very different when it comes to fees.

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