I’d add at the very top of this list of reasons to want a native token is EASE OF USE. Crypto in general (but especially Arbitrum, ETH, ERC20, ANT tokenisation) is hard. Hard to understand and hard to use. It also requires trust of third party exchanges (frequently hacked), sending photoID (KYC), compulsory transaction logging for taxes, financial risk, fraud risk. And all of this must be waded through before you have even tried the network for the first time. Normal people will never do this.
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That’s what I thought too. But after thinking a while, I’ve come to realize that there may be many things that enterprises want from an data management app that individual users don’t want. Maybe some kind of accounting stuff, that would be unnecesarily heavy for home users. Or the possibility of various kinds of access controls to the companys wallets. Or some ways of keeping track of files and directories that are somehow different, but connected, and multiple users uses them in different offices. Or some metadata, that is useful in enterprise context, but would me just clutter in homes.
Just my guesses, but I can see many reasons for separate enterprise app.
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You should change your name to massive tit 
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complete tit 
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Yes, permanent storage is indeed a core part of the network! Indelible is a tool aimed at enterprises that want to take advantage of that, by giving them an easier, smoother and more useful way to integrate with existing systems. No subscription required! And all open source ofc.
But, if someone else wanted to do better, make it even easier, and charge a subscription for it — or build any other kind of business model on top of the raw materials of the network, then they could do that too!
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Shouldn’t we move this discussion to a separate thread titled: “Discover our roadmap: native token or groundbreaking discoveries in the age of AI?"
Ok, but I still don’t understand the enterprise roadmap: since all of the key features listed for this enterprise tool are a core part the network. Can I rephrase the question:: What won’t non-enterprise users get?
I don’t think anyone here is criticising what David is doing. The criticism is more about changes to the roadmap without taking into account the opinion of the community, especially those who have contributed greatly to the project, such as Mark.
Discussion is always cathartic, and when the flow of information is insufficient or changes are made without wider consultation, it causes unnecessary tension. So I would not criticise a community that invests money, time and commitment because it has the right to express its opinion on the changes taking place. This is usually called democracy.
And here the question arises - has the world really moved forward, or is it just trying to convince us of that? There are many opinions that the current herd mentality resembles the Dotcom bubble of 2008, and the Buffett indicator has reached a historic level of 217%, which significantly exceeds the peaks it reached during the Dotcom bubble, as well as the increases during the pandemic in February 2021, when it exceeded 200%. What if David is wrong and the current AI bubble bursts just when the code is available but no one is ready to use it?
There is a saying: “Be prepared for the worst, hope for the best.” If we become convinced that we must do something rather than can do something, there is a chance that Autonomi will become a project that is constantly undergoing reconstruction. Perhaps it is worth discussing the original assumptions rather than blindly succumbing to the current AI craze? Constructive criticism, broad discussion and a broad perspective (especially in such a revolutionary project as Autonomi) have never hurt anyone – never say never.
I fully agree with the last sentence, although if we remain open to different points of view and are willing to listen to different voices, the chances of both using the network as quickly as possible and getting a Lambo will increase significantly.
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Maybe you’re looking at this the wrong way around? Because everyone gets all of what the network can offer, but just that certain groups need certain tools depending on their needs. And this is a tool that’s being built to fulfil the needs of developers in enterprise situations who might want to integrate Autonomi with existing systems.
And of course it’s all open source so any user is free to utilise it, but it’s being tailored to the needs of a specific group: enterprise developers.
I’m sure Nic will be able to speak about it inform more detail and I can and the next Spaces!
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