Update 24th April, 2025

[neo]

@Dimitar

If everyone wins a share of these 1.5 million ant,

Well it definitely reads as

• ANT locked up for 12 months
• all backers receive a share of the 1.5 million for those apps that go live
• 0 to 12 apps will go live by the stated date

It seems dangerous in that some to all of the locked ANT can be lost to the people backing apps. If some do not go live then the people will lose the ANT.

To me that is very risky and doubt people will lock up substantial amounts since an app can fail to go live for any number of reasons which include it being no fault of the app writer.

Seems the OP says

@maidsafe

In phase 2, the final 12 will compete for prizes and backing by the community, and backers will get their Ant back along with any Backing Awards 12 months (+ 1 day) after the day they backed the app.

which means that the backed amount is returned no matter what

[Toivo]

@maidsafe

@qi_ma also created a PR to set the default chunk_batch_size to 1. Upload/download tests against the Alpha network have shown this increases the success rate, especially for users with a poor connection. Users can tweak the batch_size variable for better performance, if their connection allows.

How do I tweak it in practice?

I think I solved it with ChatGPT:

On Linux, copy into terminal

export CHUNK_UPLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=4
export CHUNK_DOWNLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=4

Instead of 4, you can try other numbers.

Edit: fixed a mistake I made earlier, as @qi_ma commented on it below.

[riddim]

In tests not long ago download batch size of 3 was enough to saturate a 1gbit link on larger files … Not sure that parameter needs much tweaking anyway…

[Toivo]

On 60MB file the parameter value 1 is clearly slower than higher values:

time ant file download 6e93f32ac27275de1a17d104688bc3cab46b98d94d60ddd950cc18c925766041 .

real	0m34.415s
user	0m13.096s
sys	0m6.152s

export CHUNK_DOWNLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=2
time ant file download 6e93f32ac27275de1a17d104688bc3cab46b98d94d60ddd950cc18c925766041 .

real	0m31.032s
user	0m12.552s
sys	0m6.040s

export CHUNK_DOWNLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=4
time ant file download 6e93f32ac27275de1a17d104688bc3cab46b98d94d60ddd950cc18c925766041 .

real	0m16.808s
user	0m7.549s
sys	0m3.689s

export CHUNK_DOWNLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=16
time ant file download 6e93f32ac27275de1a17d104688bc3cab46b98d94d60ddd950cc18c925766041 .

real	0m16.189s
user	0m9.049s
sys	0m4.340s

With an 200MB upload, I’m getting:

Not enough node quotes for .., got: 1 and need at least 5

…nevermind the batch size. Bummer, that the uploads are so unreliable.

[riddim]

Good testing there

[qi_ma]

@Toivo

export FILE_UPLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=4
export FILE_DOWNLOAD_BATCH_SIZE=4

shall be prefixed with CHUNK_ not FILE_

@Toivo

On 60MB file the parameter value 1 is clearly slower than higher values:

Yeah, if the connection is good, better lift up the value for a better performance.

@Toivo

With an 200MB upload, I’m getting:

Not enough node quotes for .., got: 1 and need at least 5

…nevermind the batch size.

This shall get addressed by the PR 2929.

[neo]

@qi_ma

This shall get addressed by the PR 2929.

YAY

[DeusNexus]

Cannot wait! Seems we are moving in the right direction

[Hannu]

@Toivo

…nevermind the batch size. Bummer, that the uploads are so unreliable.

Have you tested with the 1.5.2025 (vappu ) version? If you succeed, then nothing can stop this!

[Toivo]

@Hannu

Have you tested with the 1.5.2025 (vappu ) version? If you succeed, then nothing can stop this!

I just did.

I uploaded successfully about 200MB file with batch size 4!

Then I tried to re-upload the same file with batch size 64, to test for free, if the quote system returns all the quotes, which has been the failing thing. And it did!

Summary

But there was some other weird behaviour there, which unfortunately I’m not willing to share the logs. The reason for that is, that the upload is a pirated content from a podcaster / video producer that I value highly, and I don’t want to re-distribute it without payment to him. And the reason for me having it in the first place regardless of that attitude of mine, is that a friend gave me a USB stick that just had it. And I don’t have much big files in this experimental linux laptop of mine. Phew, that was complicated!

[aatonnomicc]

8Gb with batch size 32