Update 11th September, 2025

Neither is that expression, by the way :rofl:

Yeah dweb is cool. At the moment the biggest issue for me with dweb is not the actual program, but the usage of the word “serve”. I’ve seen it used as dweb “serves”… And while I kind of understand what it means, it is confusing in a very intuitive level. We are sort of talking about servers, that this network was supposed to discard - and has done so. But from a non-techie point of view these semantics, while correct, are quite confusing.

So I really hope we get apps etc. that do what they do under the hood, and all the semantics aimed at general public just don’t use the “serve” word in any shape or form.

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Guilty as charged :slight_smile:

This is also true. in a few months all these rough edges should hopefully get smoothed out.
Meantime, please keep pointing out what is not 100% correct or could be done better.

Also

Sad.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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I think you need to use a capital T - Toivo

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Very true

Doubt this could be done automagiclly so a wee note reminding folks to (optionally) set their public identifier the same as their forum handle might help.

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Note that AntTP isn’t designed to just run as a public gateway. That is just one way to use it.

You can also run it locally, to avoid servers and middlemen. It then connects directly to the Autonomi network through native library integration (e.g.http://localhost:18888/a0f6fa2b08e868060fe6e57018e3f73294821feaf3fdcf9cd636ac3d11e7e2ac/BegBlag.mp3)

You can also enable proxy mode, which means you don’t need the localhost:port stuff - you just go straight to an XOR address or a bookmark (e.g. http://a0f6fa2b08e868060fe6e57018e3f73294821feaf3fdcf9cd636ac3d11e7e2ac/BegBlag.mp3)

Lastly, developers can integrate it as a library and hide it all from users. They can they just talk HTTP internally in the app (e.g. these Tauri based apps).

Ofc, you could avoid using AntTP/HTTP, but the likes of Tauri use it as a feature. You get to use HTML, CSS, JavaScript, etc, which makes life creating a UI easier.

So yes, you can use AntTP as a public gateway. It doesn’t mean you have to and there are lots of other options. AntTP is really an alternative platform to DWeb, but with a different starting point/focus.

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Is there some tutorial on how to run my own proxy server? Asking as a noob with basic knowledge. But if there is a simple copy & paste tutorial on how to copy the antsnest functionality on my own domain, I would try that.

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Hmh, I wish I would have set that :backhand_index_pointing_up: as my identifier.

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Thx 4 the update Maidsafe devs and all your hard work

Great progress super ants :flexed_biceps:

Super exited for IF gen 1 :partying_face:

:vulcan_salute: GOD, because somebody is begging for disruption :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

Keep hacking super ants

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@safemedia has safebox server, which is designed to streamline this: GitHub - SafeMedia/safebox-server: safebox server

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The README is straightforward apart from IMHO Step 3.
Just use Option B and avoid faffage. Shout if you get stck.

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Useful to hear. Progress is being made that will eliminate the need for this terminology, although I also think it is a relatively small number of our target users - that is everyone :laughing: - who will think along the lines you describe.

Most people will - we hope - begin to value and look for privacy and security, but are unlikely to know enough to worry about words like ‘server’.

Regardless, my intention is to eliminate the need for anyone to type dweb serve or to think about how this magic happens.

Using dwebdirectly will just be dweb open something and your chosen web app, eg Friends will open in your browser. For native apps such as Colony the fact dweb is involved will be hidden by it being included in the app.

Both these improvements are very close I just need to find a few days to spend on coding. If Pointers are also sorted :folded_hands: things should start to fly!

The versioned web, including dynamic web apps will be happening, and all someone wanting to browse it will have to do is install one app. Whether that’s a dweb app, including on mobile, our something like Colony.

We’re very close IMO.

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You can always open the settings and add identifiers :hugs:

It’s a pity we don’t have owned mutables… Would be pretty cool to be able to give away names again too

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which is where the hint to use your forum username - exactly as you spell it in here- as your identifier.

Or one of them, you can have several identifiers if you want. Though I have not played around with this much.

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Thankyou team for the update

@JimCollinson has confirmed it is 8PM BST and not 2PM

This one has me stumped. USB (Universal Serial Bus) deployments?

Love to hear more about this one

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PeerTube already exists. Nobody uses it. As with facebook and twitter ithe problem is the network effect, not lack of good viable alternatives or new technology.

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I tried the first video so far. It loads. I am able to skip only forward a certain 15++ seconds (it’s random/variable) per click-forward on the seek bar. Meaning, it doesn’t skip to the exact timestamp that was clicked on.

The first attempt to fast forward along as far as possible in the video: I started eventually clicking very quickly, with rapid mouse clicks, which eventually froze the video itself, resulting in me closing the video (my method of choice: closing the tab, rather than clicking a bookmark of mine or something like that). I had gotten to about the 10 minute mark.

The second attempt: I clicked the mouse somewhere on the seek bar with much less rapidity, in order to see how far I could get along the duration of the video. However, eventually, even with the more steady clicks, my entire Firefox browser ended up crashing (with the ability to restart and have all my tabs still available, at least). I got to the 15 or 20 minute mark.

I am trying the second video. It loads. Because the video is shorter, I can see the video loading—indicated by the gray coloration gradually covering the seek bar, compared to the black coloration for the unloaded parts of the video. The same thing happens as in the first video if I click on the seek. (This makes me realize that, in the long video, I just can’t see the gray coloration, even though it would technically be there if my monitor was 6 feet horizontal.)

Opinion: I think the crashing happens because of me “being impatient” and repeatedly requesting for the video to be loaded at the end of the gray coloration, where it’s still trying to load chunks gradually.

edit: This just happened. In this image’s instance: the video and sound actually are still playing correctly, with this error message and gray overlay stuck forever. I think it happened while it was just playing normally, but I don’t remember.

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That’s because people are ‘alternatived out’. People would migrate to new things, but why bother when they either get bought out and turned into the same centralized censoreous commie junk, or they don’t and the commies deplatform at the DNS, host, or IP level?

Autonomi is an opportunity to create fundamentally true and honest alternatives. People will migrate as soon as the tech is there, which it’s not yet. Hopefully soon.

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PeerTube is decentralised. It has been around for years. Censorship just isn’t a problem like it is on centralised YouTube / alternatives. People moan about big tech but nostr, mastadon, and other fediverse networks have been doing it better in every way, even when you account for their flaws. But people just don’t use them. It is only the network effect that surpasses the problems found on centralised networks, there are no other reasons not to switch. Privacy,security,censorship resistance,interoperability, adless sleek uis, are all superior even though they are nowhere near perfect. Some of these decentralized networks have been around for over a decade now. The network effect is something even big tech giants like google (remember google plus / circles) haven’t been able to overcome.

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Im thinking this is for folks using USB external drives for node storage rather than the standard internal HDD

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The point is, you don’t need a youtube or a peertube. We don’t need their infrastructure, which is what draws folks to these solutions.

Anyone can upload a video directly to autonomi and play it using whatever streaming app they choose.

The point isn’t to create another walled garden. It is to knock the walls down.

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