I’ve seen these tweets and when people think that Storj/Sia etc. are the same as SAFE, they simply haven’t done any decent research. And they don’t want to probably, because they’re traders and not interested in the development or technology.
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To me the definition of vaporware is Half Life 2: Episode 3.
Would you put that in the same category as SafeNetwork?
To me to call it a vaporware is unfair.
At first i said vaporware stage, i dont think its “vaporware” (otherwise i wouldnt buy 400k) But i can understand clearly why people think this and i cant blame them. People need to be able to use the product and they can not the real mainnet is not there, the coin is not made etc.The software are seperate parts.
People simply dont know if it works or not unless they are from this forum or involved.
Thats what i call the vaporware stage yes.
Thats also why in my opinion the market drop like a stone again, People expected a working
product when it went into “Alpha”
Thats exactly what i told them and i see they finaly tweeted to maidsafe to get informed.
And im a trader for ages but im also interrested in the development.
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I was thinking about the closed network issue the other day. Perhaps it would be good for maidsafe to invite key people/companies to host stable nodes on the alpha network?
If the chosen nodes are also hosted on stable, performance hardware, it would provide a step forward in distributing the data. At least then it wouldn’t all be maidsafe nodes, but a mixture of stable nodes.
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You could also give another meaning to vaporware.
You could say that the SAFE network will be the ultimate cloud solution.
And what are clouds made of? A lot of vapor 
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Nice idea!
Maybe get the guys in Asia or Glasgow to set up well-managed nodes to demonstrate the ‘network’ in action?!
I guess we already know this stuff works, it just needs to handle the bad nodes better, so adding a healthy external node doesn’t prove much. But I do agree that naysayers would have less mud to sling if it were more distributed than it is now.
Meh, maybe it doesn’t matter. I’m not sure that’s really what’s holding back the last lot of BttF investors. It’s probably more about how complicated it is to really understand SAFE’s proposition.
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Lisk is a good example, as soon as they run their delegates its great, but as soon as they switch on user delegates the network is crazy, messy and unstable.
It would prove that the vaults are distributed and nothing ‘behind the curtain’ is going on though. If it is only a vault stability issue that remains, this would prove it.
I like the idea of one of the partners providing the hosting too.
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This has already happened…I believe @bluebird set up a community network running independent vaults awhile back…and I also believe one of the test networks allowed community vaults…I may be wrong though…
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Your username is six letters. 6 / 2 = 3. You posted three days ago. Episode 3.
Half Life 3 confirmed.
Ok I have a few questions or suggestion requests on investing at BttF. I plan on investing, and I think I’ll sell some ETH to get the money for it. I guess my question is what you guys think is better, to go that route or buy $1k worth of safecoins? I know some here might say with haste to get rid of my ETH.
I really don’t wanna miss this opportunity, and there’s only three days left. Maybe I should sell an even bigger chunk and do both?
Edit: Sigh… I’m already late on this as I’ll be getting the low end of the bonus benefits. Oh well, still can’t pass this up.
Can buy coins anytime;
Can buy stock in the actual company itself only this once, which runs out forever soon
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That’s a very good point!
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You’ll still get the usb!!
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The pound has dumped and MAID shares are priced in GBP, so buying in with any other currency gets you more bang for your buck.
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Although the appeal of limited opportunities is strong, it is also a psychological trap, better known as cognitive biases in psychology. The perception of scarcity can distort our perception of value, so be aware of that. It is wrong to think “I better buy it now, because it is gonna be over soon” (scarcity heuristics), and also is wrong to think “I better buy now because everybody else is doing, so it must be good” (appeal to the masses), but instead you should think more like this “I better buy now, because it is an excellent investment opportunity based on my market research and P/L calculations”.
So lets go to the point @Psybin , I think that buying coins might be more profitable than owning shares, also the investment in coins is more liquid so you will be able to sell them rapidly if you need them for some emergency.
If you buy shares you will have to typically wait at least 5 to 10 years minimum.
Also, you need 1000 GBP (around 1243.75 USD, around 2 BTC) minimum to invest in B shares at least, while investing in coins you can do it on any smaller amount.
Nick calculated a potential 15X on the appreciation of MaidSafe as a company for current investors in this round (if the company succeeds in their mission), which is reasonable. But I think the coins are so undervalued that it could double that at least.
So you weight the pros and cons, and invest accordingly, and never get dragged by the time constraint.
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Cmon guys!!
2 days left to raise 1 million dollars!! 
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I think it’s sounds good that it’s like socialism, if you make the comparison with capitalism. Resource donations to open source projects? Awesome!