SAFE Network Client Testing Commences

Test site uploaded! Very cool! :slight_smile:

http://traktion.safenet

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Does my ISP know that i have played pacman on the safe network? what about firefox? do they know anything about my IP?

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No that will be fully encrypted (not fully in this test tho).

Nothing

Your ISP will definitely know your IP. Hopefully not all you do with it, in SAFE anyway :wink:

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Because i have noticed that all these sites are in my browsing history, so browser provider would be able to tell which site i have visited no? What about cookies this doesn’t work i guess ? Im still trying to wrap my head around the concept of the safe network, how does it compare to tor?

Anyone welcome to answer ofc.

Only if they collect your browsing history from you, something to watch right enough with all the trackers out there (FB etc.). So, not so much browser provider, but other sites you visit could start tracking you. Worth looking at things like “privacy badger” and the likes if you are using a browser. It’s an area we should fully document and of course further research.

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Would be awesome if we could get this to work on our .safenet sites : is surely a good test & show case :

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Thank you for the response!

Not a problem, I must have just been mistaken. I definitely see the uses and Benefits with that

My interpretation:

Q: Will your browser know your SAFE browsing history?
A: If you have “Save history” turned on, yes. You can delete it at any time (Ctrl+Shift+Del on keyboard) though, this is the norm for all browsers. If you are signed into Google Chrome, it might save your browsing history to Google’s cloud if you are both logged in to the browser and have the data sync option selected.

Q: Cookies and SAFE browsing?
A: It should work similarly as it does on normal websites, in the sense that cookies are a piece of information storage in the browser (maybe it’s session id’s, user names, nonces). Your browser will only serve up a cookie when it’s requesting a file from the exact same website that saved the cookie.

I think what you’re interested in is the possibility of overlap. Where you’re requesting files from both SAFE and the normal internet. When this overlap happens it is very easy to correlate the data and prove what you were doing. This is actually possible (and easy to do) in current SAFE sites. However, when the network is production ready, I presume there will be an application or operating system that denies all requests to the normal-internet, and only allows SAFE connections.

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I’ve been mentally building the SAFE version of that, basically a decentralized operating system that exists and is computed entirely within the network.

@dirvine mentioned something similar a few times on par with the Tails secure operating system.

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Happened to me too Yesterday

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David has indicated that Cassandra type databases will provide for dynamic websites…I’d like to see the brains discuss that a little more.

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All good on Windows 8

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WOOOOT! The launcher connected! Rushes to download the demo app for windows

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Will the final SAFE version be similar to tor in that when you connect with the launcher the browser opens automatically? The proxy set up is problematic for mainstream adoption i reckon.

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Just sent in another error report. Bloody app won’t let me upload a site. Either that or it’s giving me false readings or something. It’s just hanging out there. Hanging out there…

Sweet! I just reinstall it, and now running safenet with no problems…Oh no, here comes the but part!

BUT!

If I run the proxy in firefox. it crash the entire operating system. If I run in chromium, it runs smoothly with no crashes whatsoever.

Now I need to upload the files! :smile:

Very, very excited.
Q1. How do I use JIRA Service Desk, I don’t have a Maidsafe Google Apps account?
Q2. Everything went swimmingly except, can’t see my brand new website :frowning:

Really surprised and delighted at how smoothly everything went up to this point.

Congratulations Team!!!

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It looks like you don’t have the proxy set up. Go read the documentation and scroll down to the bit about setting up the proxy.

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Is the JIRA Service desk also to be used for suggestions? Or do you only want to receive issues/bugs there? In case of the latter any other places to leave suggestions? (besides perhaps on this forum)

By suggestions I mean for example making the account creation process a bit more transparent for the average user by giving more details about PIN/KEY and PASSWORD and what they are used for (to be honest I’m not totally sure about that myself :slightly_smiling:).

I’m sure Maidsafe already has ideas about making things more straightforward for the average user, so maybe at this moment in time there’s no need / interest in suggestions like the above?

Quick question, I can use any browser correct? (I use safari) I still haven’t checked tutorial but just planning ahead

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