Routers for advanced setups

Hopefully getting an upgrade to 1gb up/down possibly 2gb up/down. Did you guys figure out the best router/solution for maximum nodes? I remember Josh saying something about multiple routers with their own ip. Any help would be appreciated.

Multiple IP addresses is a good thing. But more cost, pay for extra IP addresses and pay for switch connected to the fibre and pay for extra routers.

They can be cheaper routers of course. RB 5009 from Mikrotik should handle 1Gbps links fine, so if you get 5 IP address then one router per 500Mbps worth of your link. That way 4 routers can easily, very easily, handle 2Gbps.

How would you go about connecting 4 routers, each using a public IP from the ISP, to one fiber internet connection? Send the connection through a switch first, or would it have to be a dumb hub? If a switch would work would you need to set up port isolation on the switch so there is no crossover traffic between the four IP’s?

You actually want this. Nodes on IP 1 could need to talk to nodes on IP 2

From what Josh said I was assuming only 1 line with a static ip and separate ip addresses on the routers? Or as usual am I way off :weary:

Yep, the number of ip addresses is set by the ISP and on the internet link. The context is not LAN IP addresses, but public. Many LAN IP addresses go to one router, but still appear as one IP address on the internet

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So I would have to request multiple ip addresses from my isp?

Edit: looks like that option is out of I do.

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In general :-
If you want multiple machines at home then they have their own LAN address connected to one router to the internet.

But if your router cannot handle the traffic then multiple routers facing the internet needs multiple IP public addresses

It boils down to your requirements

Since your ISP only provides one then I would not worry about it unless it is causing issues

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Thanks neo looks like I’ll have to join the fun of owning a microtik :joy:

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Is the network designed such that nodes changing their IP (DHCP, servers moved to another location, etc) is tolerated by the peers of the nodes? Would nodes with a static IP earn more?

In theory if the node earns then it will earn at the same rate as others.

Yes a change in IP address is supposed to be tolerated. In anycase home-network is always available it its a problem if ISP rapidly changes it.

But in general if you have dynamically allocated IP address then it remains the same while connected. Otherwise some other applications can break if the IP address changes during the session that it is connected. So as far as possible the dynamic allocations attempts to keep the same IP address for an active connection.

Has anyone had any joy with upnp on Mikrotik routers?

Port forwarding is great. Home network too. But upnp doesn’t earn any tokens for me (after a 24h stint, I move to home network on a test box).

Running antctl nat-detection run seems to confirm it - it says it is a ‘private’ network.

I’ve followed the instructions to turn upnp on, but no joy.

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Should be an absolute silly question, but did you enable upnp in the router settings?

IP → UPnP
set to enable and you can click on interfaces in the UPnP settings box and add them

Yeah and configured the interfaces.

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Been a good while but worked for me in the past.

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I have earned exactly two tokens running uPnP on my five nodes… in the past
6 days since making the switch from HOME… using default settings set by Cogeco ISP on the cable modem/router.

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gave up on UPnP and switched back to HOME, will report on difference in 24 hours. I am on Ubuntu Linux 24.04.1 LTS now on this crap Acer Aspire 10thgen i5 4 core 8 thread system with 8GB ram and 256GB storage, using it as my daily Browser/gmail/AI DeepSeek Chat bot driver and remote D.O. dev droplet access machine, with it cut back to four antnodes, now running the full 64GB per antnode storage, just to see what it will do , 160mbit up/down ISP.

It should be more than performant, but as a HOME relay node, well , we will see (vs UPnP). Random XOR address assignments are like a lottery, you could get included in four zombie close groups with no local upload activity and earn nothing right across the board because the faucet spray ‘misses’ you.

it’s a game of numbers really, to few nodes and you are SOL, with the current random faucet spray rate, that is for sure, one might have more luck buying a lottery ticket given the 430,000+ node count at the moment. ;(

We are learning useful information about what happens when the networks gets much bigger than the data uploaded suggests. That’s a good thing overall.

It will be great to see how a network with higher data density and load performs though. That will be the real test.

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Im consistently getting maximum amount of retries message and cannot start any nodes when before i was at least starting nodes. Ive tried all the differnet connection types and cannot get any joy with any of them, is there anything i could do? im using launchpad and debian

i have a bt smart router and have tired port forawrding on them although i barely know what im doing

EDIT: IVe found that when i change the storage media from flash usb drive to a hdd I can now connect nodes to the network. Is this a known thing?

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What is the speed and type of your USB connection to the flash drive?