RFC - Decentralised Naming System II - continuous auction (by Seneca)

i’m not sure if it is that easy … for 8 euros a month you also get a server with 65 535 IPv6 addresses … then you only need to have “some” virtual network-cards and mac addresses are different too …

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Not really, since we use Proof of Resource in the consensus mechanisms. There simply shouldn’t be any one-time privileges for an account, then there’s no point spamming them.

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Tracking each view puts no more extra strain to the network than viewing each page. The only thing the network would track is number of views, so what privacy risk is exposed?

You proposed that

How do you achieve that without tracking which user views what?

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If this solves the multiple account creation problem, then users don’t need to be tracked and all is good.

Edit: sorry mixed up my logic there is still the issue of needing to track page views.

If “Joe” is so invested into the site, why doesn’t he put his money where his views are. Works for wikipedia!

Would replacing views with Safecoin paid back to network work? Or a combination of both Safecoin and views?

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yes coins would work - that was @Seneca’s first suggestion (post 32) but yes … way above here ^^

views are so easy to manipulate …

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Thanks.

So I basically shanghaied @Seneca idea. Sorry about that. I do like the idea, but I’m curious if there is any other way to make it work without Safecoin?

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i have no idea how you could do it without … but views really are sooooo easy to fake …

…another way without creating fake accounts and so on would be to create many “porn-sites”, advertising them in the right forums and just redirecting people to your site … I know people who pushed their clan-website-rank this way for a competition ^^ it works impressively well ^^

But that begs the question, how can a user know what he/she is getting into when they visit a site? The problem isn’t that we can’t have memorable site names once they’ve been visited. The Petname System mitigates that. The initial view however, is the hardest.

For example, the “moving bus test”. If you saw the name of a site on a moving bus, would it be memorable enough to be able to find it on the net? In a site search engine with an adequate ranking system, this may mitigate the problem.

It may not solve the problem, but the combination of the donations (from the site or the users) with the global namespace (that is not necessarily unique) should be enough to mitigate it.

Like I said though, once it’s viewed, it can be marked in the user’s private view of the network as unique, by assigning it it’s own petname. Also, if a user shares a site digitally, the globally unique “key” is the actual token that is transferred, not some string. The recieving user can assign their own petname to that key to reference the site that it’s referring to.

The problem, then, lies in site discovery, and off-the-grid/here’s-the-site-i-wrote-it-on-a-paper-napkin sharing of site names. How convenient should it be? (what happens if you type safenetwork.com instead of .io…)

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There has to be away to solve the hostile takeover issue?

The hostile takeover is a non-issue if the site has already been visited by the user. It literally can’t happen.

If the user hasn’t visited the site, well, that’s where something like a decentralized site ranking index comes into play.

When you google a site, do you select the one that has the right name, or the one that has the right content?

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I like the idea, but how does a site get ranked? If it’s only ranked with Safecoin, then you run into a rich vs poor issue.

This is a useful way of looking at the issues here, I recommend everyone to read it if you’re unfamiliar with the system.

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we could program an AI collecting all data of every user, combining it in one big database and calculating probabilities which site is meant by the user → presenting the right one

EDIT: uhm - you really could have shared petname-systems … so if your friends have a petname for one site and you activated the feature you will get to the site your friend mentioned yesterday
…but of course …more complexity … the simpler the system the better …

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How exactly would a Pet naming system work with @seneca proposal?

Stay away from AI, data of every user, one big database, and I think you got a winner.

Seriously though, I do like the “what is meant by the user” bit. Although…isn’t that pretty much the holy grail among search engines? Like, if it was possible, wouldn’t google only have a “I’m feeling lucky” button?

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@betterthantrav please read Introduction to Petname Systems in its entirety. For once the article is better than the Wikipedia page.

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thanks that you like my idea :smiley: wasn’t intended to be a serious proposal but couldn’t resist :wink:

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