Project Decorum - Crowdsale (Ended)

I wonder if that’s actually the case - perhaps Seneca could clarify. As you know, I’m not techie, so please correct me if wrong, but didn’t Seneca mention that the actual process of posting a comment, involves the creation of a new Ac? Not sure if this meant Safe Ac or Decorum Ac, or whether I’ve got this completely wrong. This would mean the protocol itself earns safecoin for Seneca, as well as any apps he builds etc?
PtP should really be pushed for by those associated with project then…doesn’t help investors or users though…anyway, may be totally wrong here. :smile:

Nope, the protocol won’t make any money, even if 10 million people use it on SAFE. It’s a protocol just like we use http:// on internet. So when you create a website and add pieces of the protocol to let people reply to a post, it’s just that. It’s free to use and free to view.

The protocol uses it’s own address space (tag_type), so when you make a reply on a forum, it has it’s own address. You are the owner of the address. And if you want to change your reply later you might want it to be structured data. So when you write a reply, it’s yours but you have to PUT some structured data. That might cost some money, but only after it’s above several kb I think. But even when you put in a library using the protocol, and you have to pay the network, our dear friend Seneca won’t make any money on it.

He might make a great Forum App that uses his own protocol and PtP to make some money, but for security it will be open source I think. So someone else might copy it and make a free version of it.

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Slowly building a team.[quote=“maidsaferocks, post:627, topic:8474, full:true”]
So when Seneca is done we won’t have a forum? Someone else will still need to build a forum based on his protocol?
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No, I’ll definitely make fully functioning implementations.[quote=“Al_Kafir, post:629, topic:8474”]
didn’t Seneca mention that the actual process of posting a comment, involves the creation of a new Ac?
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That’s a proof of concept limitation because we don’t have the full StructuredData API yet. The proof of concept registers a domain name (which uses a StructuredData object) when you make a comment, but that’s just a temporary workaround.

Only the app(s), if PtP gets implemented.

I’m actually a PtP skeptic, have been for well over a year. I haven’t involved myself in those discussions lately, but in the older threads you can find my reasons for skepticism plus me giving “Likes” to other skeptic arguments, especially to @jreighley .

Offering shares of PtP income to crowdsale participants was suggested to me before the crowdsale started, but I decided against that because then I couldn’t possibly oppose that feature if test results wouldn’t take my objections away.

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thanks! Is there a time limit to do this please?

this coin will be not on polo even in one year! you dont get it do you?
look at safe exchange app. they are also not yet listed.
first prio should be getting it on bittrex, yobit & co
than make network and marketing and get it on polo.

The same could have been said for SEC (safex) but even after a number of people contacting polo they still have not listed it. It too was very closely linked to SAFE

Bittrex took it up very quickly and saw a lot of trading. But polo still does not.

If that´s your first priority, go and rally for PDC to get listed on Bittrex. If you had read information correctly @Seneca already said (long ago) that he is going to try to get it listed and that Bittrex will be his first target. Having said this, he has any responsibility to set priorities the way you want to have them because there is anything in the terms to which you subscribed when you participated in the crowdsale. Simples.

Added on ccex voting https://c-cex.com/?id=vote&coin=pdc

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Dev, you can pay to poloniex out of the ICO money(this is considerd part of the developments and marketing) and they will add it, look how they added lisk on first day

you mean yobit do you?

Don’t harry to trade! be patient~

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Agreed. patient is the key

should i really reply to someone named bigtimescamer? ur fud not working here buddy, we want the success of the project thats why poloniex is a must…

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Let’s emphasize that again: we should list PDC on Poloniex rather than other second-rate exchange, which is better for all of us in the long.

Poloniex makes decisions about what coins to add. Not the dev and not us. Forcing the topic doesn’t do anything. A Polo add can be hoped for but it shouldn’t be treated like that is what it takes for a project to be a success. In fact, the project has nothing to do with any exchange - it is a decentralized social media platform that runs on the Safe Network.

If you want to talk about your investment being a success, which I am not against, then call it what it is. Confusing the two is kind of annoying. In fact, a speculator thread separate from this one might be an okay idea.

Two cents…

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This! 20 characters…

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sorry, but im investor…this doesnt make any sense to me

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Bear with me here. The difference is in perception. Yours (and mine incidentally) only contribution to Project Decorum is a financial contribution during the crowdsale. For you, success is predicated upon being able to sell your tokens at a profit and taking advantage of the crypto atmosphere that allows for these tokens to be sold at ridiculous prices ala a gold rush. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with that outside of what it is.

But Decorum and the Safe Network is much more than just the token price. It is the enabling of free speech without concern of data mining, without being forced into viewing an advertisement every .5 seconds. It’s not being worried that their will be reprisal from voicing an opinion and it is about connecting the people of the world who are stuck behind oppressive shields. The social interaction and the creativity from The Safe Network and Decorum alone is worth its weight in whatever because of the unmeasured benefit that comes from social collaboration.

I am not saying that you need to not care about the token price. I’m merely stating that every other post that implies “Polo or failure” is completely missing the point. If you need to do that, then another thread would be a suitable compromise.

Edit to include myself in above parentheses.

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i completely agree with you, and that’s the reason i bought into Decorum, because of the amazing idea and possible future applications for it, not because of the financial reasons: wallets ditribution,tokens number, low marketcap.
so yes, i will stand to support the project as much as i can (which can be in marketing/price anaylsis for the community,etc…), but also i want it to give me returns as an investor, that’s why hitting a big exchange is an important issue for me.

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I wasn’t denying that it wasn’t an important issue to you. I was merely stating that there is no real control had by the community on what decisions any given exchange makes…including Poloniex. As such, it really makes no sense to just merely discuss the perceived impetus of making Polo do anything; it’s out of the dev’s and our control to a certain extent.

Better to focus on the project and let people come to us.